I didn't know that.

Most of my servers are not public facing, mainly for "in house" use.  There 
must be a way to get the firmware if you need it?... there always is.

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On 2018-02-06, 3:42 PM, "Af on behalf of Faisal Imtiaz" <af-boun...@afmug.com 
on behalf of fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

    
    NO firmware updates, unless you have a support contract..
    they did this back in 2014 !
    
    Regards
    
    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    http://www.snappytelecom.net
    
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
    
    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
    > To: af@afmug.com
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:34:14 PM
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    
    > I like Dells, but I have HP's because of the excess/price on eBay.
    > 
    > You are saying HP doesn't support like Dell?
    > 
    > I can believe that.
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:14 PM
    > To: af@afmug.com
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    > 
    > In my opinion, check out the firmware / support polices for HP  vs Dell, 
before
    > you make a decision on what hardware to purchase.
    > 
    > :)
    > 
    > Regards.
    > 
    > Faisal Imtiaz
    > Snappy Internet & Telecom
    > http://www.snappytelecom.net
    > 
    > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
    > 
    > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
    > 
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:08:33 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware
    > 
    >> I just pickup off lease HP's on Ebay, lots of ram processors and
    >> disk... usually don't pay more than $500-800 for them.  Gen 7 and 8's.
    >> Lots of reputable sellers.
    >> 
    >> Also, Checkout PROXMOX. It's a pretty cool virtualization platform
    >> with a community edition that you hack around to get the latest
    >> version. I find it very easy... you can take VMDK files and convert
    >> them and spin up a new instance of anything easily.
    >> 
    >> Cheers,
    >> 
    >> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
    >> Silo Wireless Inc.
    >> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
    >> http://www.silowireless.com <http://www.silowireless.com/> Wireless |
    >> Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
    >> 
    >> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
    >> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
    >> WISPA http://wispa.org
    >> Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
    >> Paris Chamber of Commerce
    >> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
    >> 
    >> 
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    >>On 2018-02-06, 1:02 PM, "Af on behalf of Nate Burke"
    >><af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >>    I'm going to need to bring online a couple new servers (OS Instances) 
in
    >>    the next month or 2.  They could probably be housed inside a single
    >>    physical machine as VM's.  It's been a while since I've had to pickup
    >>    new server hardware.  What's a good spec now for a machine to do VM's.
    >>    Are NAS prices cheap enough now that you'd go with external storage, 
or
    >>    just have a single physical machine with internal HDD's.  Hardware 
NAS,
    >>    or another machine running linux and ZFS?  With external Storage, does
    >>    it all have to be 10G networking to prevent bottlenecks?  About 6 
years
    >>    ago I put in a single standalone server running VMWare, but it's out 
of
    >>    resources to add new VM's to it.
    >>    
    >>    It looks like Newegg has lots of Refurb Dell and HP servers (with no
    >>    HDD's) for cheap.  DL380G5 ~$100.  I'd like to stay in the $2k-$3k 
range
    >>    for this project.  Or is hosting your own hardware not even worth it
    >>    anymore?  Just go get a server from 1and1 for $5/mo setup a VPN back 
to
    > >     the network and be done?
    

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