If you do an ABAB channel plan, you can do four sectors per tower on 20mhz
channels using GPS sync, but that pretty much gives you no room to work
with if you into interference, so in practice, more using larger that 10mhz
channels probably isn't going to be realistic long term for most of us.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

> 50Mhz is not a lot of room for even 2 providers in a county wide area.
> Because customer wants 4k tv to work so either 15mhz or 20mhz wide
> channel spacing is needed how many channels can be squeezed out of that
> including reuse with gps?
> Scaling can become a major problem as well for both neighbors. Just
> another band turned to crap after everyone becomes a wisp in your area.
>
> Medusa save us from the nether regions of UHD4k LOL
>
>
> On 04/01/2018 11:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> The problem is that it was impractical to register every subscriber
> location.  I registered 60 locations one night and it took me several
> hours.  There was no way I was going to invest that much labor into
> registrations.  They needed both a bulk registration method and to make
> their registration page respond faster.
>
>
> That said, I have had coordination conversations with another registrant.
> It was friendly, but it was only marginally productive.  We were not able
> to agree on TDD ratios or a plan for dividing the available 50mhz, so
> basically we kept doing our own thing and resolving interference cases
> individually as they came up.  It sounds like some of you have bad
> neighbors.
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 3/31/2018 9:48:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration
>
> From what I've seen, most people are just registering every radio for the
> entire 50mhz, so it's not like you can use the information in the database
> to actually coordinate anything (and I think that really is the best option
> in the current climate, since there's a good chance your going to have to
> change channels at some point because of newcomers to the area)... then
> there are also the people that never bother to register anything, or
> register a few radios and then give up because it's too much work...
>
> I'm aware of at least four other companies in our general area that have
> AP/base stations registered, but last I checked only one of them had any
> customer locations registered... for some reason, a lot of people seem to
> be under the Impression that you only need to register the AP (or eNB, in
> LTE speak), but that's not the case and never was - everything is supposed
> to be registered (there is an exception for mobile devices, but that
> doesn't apply to anything a WISP would be using).
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:05 PM, David Coudron <
> david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to register the stations, but there is no requirement to
>> coordinate.   However, depending on how many folks are in your area it
>> still might be a good idea to make sure they are up to date on all their
>> registrations.   Sometimes we find folks don’t always update their
>> information on the FCC site and you can still run into interference.   If
>> there are too many folks in the area, it is easier to find open channels
>> and then register.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a NN license but have never used it, what is the best
>> practice/process for registering a base when you have other operators with
>> bases registered nearby? Do you need to coordinate anything?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking at deploying in a small town but 2-3 other operators have
>> bases already registered in the area, can I still deploy? Obviously need to
>> do a SA before anything....
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> TJ
>>
>
>
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>

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