Sorry to hear about your son.. True tragic..
I sure hope OSHA doesn't read this list...
On 06/06/2018 09:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much
grief for all involved.
I am rabid about seat belt use. I lost a son, who was wearing a
seatbelt in a wreck. My wife was driving. She was saved by her seat
belt so I am thankful for that. I was an EMT for a while and have seen
people walk away from horrific accidents because they simply buckled up.
Same car dead people came out of the windshield.
There is only so much you can do. If the other employee did not have
the authority to fire the guy, he did everything he could do. He
shouldn’t beat himself up because someone else chose to be stupid.
Seconds, astounding about the Rohn anchor point strength. Have you told
Rohn.
I got an OSHA citation once. I went in with the whole company, set
through a session where they chewed my ass for about an hour. Then
another hour of training, then we were on probation for a while with
periodic visits. They reduced my $25K find to $2500.
The main take-away from the experience is that you need to show a “
compliant attitude”. Fall all over yourself showing them that you need
to learn how to do things better and you need their help to learn better
methods etc. Kiss their ass, treat them as gods, and in the process you
may actually learn valuable things. But that whole showing a “broken
heart and contrite spirit” thing is key to getting the fine reduced.
Just lay on the floor and say “beat me master, I have sinned, please
show me a better way” type of thing.
*From:* David Sovereen
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Rohn 25
Hi All,
A little background: We had an employee die late last year. He climbed
a Rohn 25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his
fall protection gear. He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his
fall protection gear was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him
to put his harness on, but he exercised poor judgement and climbed
without it anyway. He slipped, fell approximately 30 feet, and was
pronounced dead about an hour later at the hospital.
We received two OSHA Citations today. I’ve attached them.
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I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday. He
tells me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to
support 5,000 lbs and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for
securing oneself. He says all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a
lift. I think they are just trying to come up with reasons to fine us.
When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person
to identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation,
were. When my employees go through the training, they become competent
in determining where suitable anchor points are, do they not?
If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear,
told to always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use
it, am I responsible? One of my employees was there and told him to put
his harness on and he refused. Consequently, that employee has gone
through a lot of turmoil putting himself through “what if” scenarios.
Just looking for thoughts on this. Fight it, and if so what approach?
Pay it and make it go away? Something else?
Thanks,
*David Sovereen*
**
Mercury Network Corporation
2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640
989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free | 989.837.3780 fax
Telephone *| *Internet* | *Security Alarm Monitoring
david.sover...@mercury.net
www.mercury.net <http://www.mercury.net/>
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Hi All,
A little background: We had an employee die late last year. He climbed a
Rohn 25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his
fall protection gear. He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his
fall protection gear was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him
to put his harness on, but he exercised poor judgement and climbed
without it anyway. He slipped, fell approximately 30 feet, and was
pronounced dead about an hour later at the hospital.
We received two OSHA Citations today. I’ve attached them.
I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday. He
tells me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to
support 5,000 lbs and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for
securing oneself. He says all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a
lift. I think they are just trying to come up with reasons to fine us.
When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person
to identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation,
were. When my employees go through the training, they become competent
in determining where suitable anchor points are, do they not?
If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear,
told to always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use
it, am I responsible? One of my employees was there and told him to put
his harness on and he refused. Consequently, that employee has gone
through a lot of turmoil putting himself through “what if” scenarios.
Just looking for thoughts on this. Fight it, and if so what approach?
Pay it and make it go away? Something else?
Thanks,
David Sovereen
Mercury Network Corporation
2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640
989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free | 989.837.3780 fax
Telephone | Internet | Security Alarm Monitoring
david.sover...@mercury.net <mailto:david.sover...@mercury.net>
www.mercury.net <http://www.mercury.net/>
