kalo di tempat kerja ku, pembagian bonus berdasarkan masa kerja dan kecakapan dalam pekerjaan, jadi kalau org yang biasa2 aja, gak bakal dapet..
Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Najib <[email protected]> menulis: > Ini namannya political Labour fare... > > Artinya...dalam bahasa simpelnya gini "perusahaan untung,kenapa gak bagi ke > karyawan", dan yang kedua "lo mau kasih bonus atau we out together" selesai > toh...win2 solution > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ear.One > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > Bonus selama tidak diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan, maka tidak ada > yg > bisa menuntuy, mau sampai ke pengadilan pun perusahaan pasti menang... > > Cuma yg harus dipertimbangkan adalah kalau bonus ada dan diberikan kepada > orang2 tertentu, nah ini yg akan dijadikan celah oleh orang depnaker untuk > "memeriksa"... dasarnya apa orang ttt tsb terima bonus, yg lain tidak... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of ryesya rasady > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > um Asean, Ear One ama Najib... > > hatur nuhun pisan respon dan penjelasana...:) > > sebetulnya UU no 13 tahun 2003 nya udah ada, tapi khawatir ada yang > terbaru / revisi atau mungkin ada informasi terbaru mengenai bonus > ini..secara kenapa tiba2 aja mereka jadi berani menuntut... > > ya mudah2an aja, tidak terjadi hal2 yang negatif, khawatir juga imbasnya > ke karyawan lama, jadi ikut2an gak di beri bonus, dengan dalih agar > adil dan merata :) > > salam, > risa > > > > Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Anthonius Asean <[email protected]> > menulis: >> Ini ada contoh kasus yang sama non,,, >> >> >> >> http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100819225626AAH6COz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bonus dari perusahaan itu sebenarnya hak karyawan ataukah semata-mata >> kebaikan boss ya? >> Kalau hak karyawan, ada yang tahukah peraturan hitam di atas putihnya? >> Kalau semata-mata kebaikan boss, yah pasrah deh >> Jawaban Terbaik - Dipilih oleh Penanya >> Ini tergantung dari perjanjian kerja bos Yuhuuu dan perusahaan. Jika >> dalam >> dokumen(hitam putih) "perjanjian kerja bersama" telah dicantumkan adanya >> bonus maka hal itu akan menjadi hak karyawan dan kewajiban perusahaan. > Jika >> tidak ada dalam dokumen "perjanjian kerja bersama", berarti sepenuhnya >> kebaikan bos. PKB ini umumnya dan seharusnya kompromi antara karyawan dan >> pemberi kerja. >> >> Selain dalam PKB, bisa juga bonus dalam bentuk insentif hasil kerja. > Semisal >> pabrik tahun ini availability(waktu pabrik beroperasi) 90%. Lalu terdapat >> kebijakan perusahaan bahwa jika availability dapat dinaikkan menjadi 95 >> %, >> maka departemen tertentu akan mendapat bonus insentif tertentu. >> Variasinya >> akan tergantung perusahaan bos Yuhuuu bekerja. >> materi referensi: >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of ryesya rasady >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:38 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... >> >> >> >> setau ku juga gitu yah.. >> >> >> >> tapi entah di kompori pihak darimana, tiba2 aja karyawan yang biasa gak >> dapet, >> >> nuntut minta bonus juga dengan dalih apa dasarnya perusahaan hanya >> >> memberikan bonus hanya ke orang2 tertentu saja.. dan kalu gak di kasih >> >> mau demo :( , mereka menuntut persamaan hak, karena mereka turut andil >> >> di perusahaan. >> >> >> >> makanya minta basic UU nya mengenai ketenagakerjaan, supaya mereka tau >> >> dan paham... >> >> >> >> trus hadapi orang2 manfaturing seperti itu juga agak sulit karena >> kebanyakan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Ear.One <[email protected]> menulis: >> >>> Bener banget tuh... dan biasanya diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan >> >>> masing2... >> >>> Namanya juga bonus alias pemberian gratis, masa di UU kan :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >> >>> Behalf Of Anthonius Asean >> >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:25 PM >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... >> >>> >> >>> Kalau setau gw siy...yg namanya Bonus tuh kebijakan perusahaan aja Sa... >> >>> Gak wajib... :-) >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >> >>> Behalf Of ryesya rasady >> >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:22 PM >> >>> To: aga-madjid >> >>> Subject: ~ aga ~ Bonus... >> >>> >> >>> Siang Agaers, >> >>> >> >>> mau tanya, untuk perusahaan manufacturing. ada gak ya peraturan yang >> >>> mengharuskan suatu perusahaan memberikan bonus ( uang di akhir taun ) >> >>> untuk semua karyawannya ? ( tanpa terkecuali ) >> >>> >> >>> apakah ada undang-undang nya ? kalau ada mohon untuk di sharing ya UU >>> nya.. >> >>> atau itu tergantung dari kebijakan masing2 perusahaan saja ? 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