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-----Original Message----- From: "Ear.One" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 14:24:48 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... Bayar!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Najib Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... Ini namannya political Labour fare... Artinya...dalam bahasa simpelnya gini "perusahaan untung,kenapa gak bagi ke karyawan", dan yang kedua "lo mau kasih bonus atau we out together" selesai toh...win2 solution -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ear.One Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... Bonus selama tidak diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan, maka tidak ada yg bisa menuntuy, mau sampai ke pengadilan pun perusahaan pasti menang... Cuma yg harus dipertimbangkan adalah kalau bonus ada dan diberikan kepada orang2 tertentu, nah ini yg akan dijadikan celah oleh orang depnaker untuk "memeriksa"... dasarnya apa orang ttt tsb terima bonus, yg lain tidak... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ryesya rasady Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... um Asean, Ear One ama Najib... hatur nuhun pisan respon dan penjelasana...:) sebetulnya UU no 13 tahun 2003 nya udah ada, tapi khawatir ada yang terbaru / revisi atau mungkin ada informasi terbaru mengenai bonus ini..secara kenapa tiba2 aja mereka jadi berani menuntut... ya mudah2an aja, tidak terjadi hal2 yang negatif, khawatir juga imbasnya ke karyawan lama, jadi ikut2an gak di beri bonus, dengan dalih agar adil dan merata :) salam, risa Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Anthonius Asean <[email protected]> menulis: > Ini ada contoh kasus yang sama non,,, > > > > http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100819225626AAH6COz > > > > > > > Bonus dari perusahaan itu sebenarnya hak karyawan ataukah semata-mata > kebaikan boss ya? > Kalau hak karyawan, ada yang tahukah peraturan hitam di atas putihnya? > Kalau semata-mata kebaikan boss, yah pasrah deh > Jawaban Terbaik - Dipilih oleh Penanya > Ini tergantung dari perjanjian kerja bos Yuhuuu dan perusahaan. Jika dalam > dokumen(hitam putih) "perjanjian kerja bersama" telah dicantumkan adanya > bonus maka hal itu akan menjadi hak karyawan dan kewajiban perusahaan. Jika > tidak ada dalam dokumen "perjanjian kerja bersama", berarti sepenuhnya > kebaikan bos. PKB ini umumnya dan seharusnya kompromi antara karyawan dan > pemberi kerja. > > Selain dalam PKB, bisa juga bonus dalam bentuk insentif hasil kerja. Semisal > pabrik tahun ini availability(waktu pabrik beroperasi) 90%. Lalu terdapat > kebijakan perusahaan bahwa jika availability dapat dinaikkan menjadi 95 %, > maka departemen tertentu akan mendapat bonus insentif tertentu. Variasinya > akan tergantung perusahaan bos Yuhuuu bekerja. > materi referensi: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of ryesya rasady > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > > > > setau ku juga gitu yah.. > > > > tapi entah di kompori pihak darimana, tiba2 aja karyawan yang biasa gak > dapet, > > nuntut minta bonus juga dengan dalih apa dasarnya perusahaan hanya > > memberikan bonus hanya ke orang2 tertentu saja.. dan kalu gak di kasih > > mau demo :( , mereka menuntut persamaan hak, karena mereka turut andil > > di perusahaan. > > > > makanya minta basic UU nya mengenai ketenagakerjaan, supaya mereka tau > > dan paham... > > > > trus hadapi orang2 manfaturing seperti itu juga agak sulit karena > kebanyakan > > > > > > > > > > > > Pada tanggal 06/07/12, Ear.One <[email protected]> menulis: > >> Bener banget tuh... dan biasanya diatur dalam buku peraturan perusahaan > >> masing2... > >> Namanya juga bonus alias pemberian gratis, masa di UU kan :) > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Anthonius Asean > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:25 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > >> > >> Kalau setau gw siy...yg namanya Bonus tuh kebijakan perusahaan aja Sa... > >> Gak wajib... :-) > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of ryesya rasady > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:22 PM > >> To: aga-madjid > >> Subject: ~ aga ~ Bonus... > >> > >> Siang Agaers, > >> > >> mau tanya, untuk perusahaan manufacturing. ada gak ya peraturan yang > >> mengharuskan suatu perusahaan memberikan bonus ( uang di akhir taun ) > >> untuk semua karyawannya ? ( tanpa terkecuali ) > >> > >> apakah ada undang-undang nya ? kalau ada mohon untuk di sharing ya UU >> nya.. > >> atau itu tergantung dari kebijakan masing2 perusahaan saja ? 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