Bravo. You make a fine word salad.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 9:48 AM A.T. Murray <mentific...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Richfield asks:
>
> > 1.  THEORY: In broad computer science terms, how does your system work?
> > From what I can tell, it is an ad hoc text manipulation program capable
> > of gathering information and answering simple questions within the
> limited
> > subject domains that have been programmed. Right?
>
> Aside: "ad hoc" (Latin "for this") means "special purpose" or
> "non-general". No, Steve, my AI system is a very general emulation of the
> human brain -- which I spent the first thirteen years (from Anno Ben
> Goertzel 0-13) of my efforts deciphering into a
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/theory5.html Theory of Mind. So it is not
> simply a "text manipulation program" but rather a "concept manipulation
> program." As such -- dealing with concepts -- it is not restricted to
> "limited subject domains" but rather it may deal with any subject
> imaginable. It does not deal with "domains that have been programmed" but
> rather with "structures of thought that have been programmed", such as
> Subject-Verb-Object (SVO) and query-formats such as "WHAT DO [subject]s
> DO?" and "WHO [verb]s [object]?"
>
> Steve Richfield asks:
> 2.  APPLICATION: What will your approach be able to do that the machine
> learning approaches discussed here can never ever be extended to do, and
> why?
>
> As I understand ML, machine learning massages enormous data-sets to
> discover patterns and to make predictions (such as Matt Mahoney et al. talk
> about). My three AI Minds -- all basically the same program in Perl,
> JavaScript and Forth -- deal with brief (small) inputs and not with the
> statistics of large data-sets. The most significant achievement of each AI
> Mind is Natural Language Understanding (NLU) as posed as an AI-hard problem
> at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-language_understanding
> webpage. That is, my AI Minds understand natural language inputs insofar as
> the minds assign the correct associative tags among the concepts mentioned
> in each input. At first each AI could only understand single-sentence
> inputs in the Subject-Verb-Object format. Then in 2016 the ghost.pl AI
> became able to understand the input of indirect objects ("John gives the
> BOY a book") and prepositional phrases ("John works IN the school"). Now in
> 2019 the AI Minds are beginning to understand the extremely complex use of
> conjunctions. Please see http://ai.neocities.org/EnVerbPhrase.html for
> how the AI Mind can shorten multiple ideas AND-ed together into a run-on
> sentence.
>
> MP says:
> > in one of his "earlier" journels, he references a "boulematic
> accumulator" -
> > in normal lingo, it means neuron, like a neural network neuron.
>
> That document was my private journal of AI theorizing. "Bouleuma" is the
> Greek word for "will" or "volition". I could have written "volitional
> accumulator". In the http://ai.neocities.org/Volition.html webpage on
> 2019-02-08 I wrote:
>
> "3.B. A chief characteristic of AI volition is the integrative nature of
> the will as it contemplates a candidate for action. Feelings or ideas in
> favor of a proposed initiative gradually move the Volition module towards
> the threshold of launching the motor execution of the proposed behavior,
> while contrary feelings and countervailing ideas delay or even prevent the
> launching of the motor initiative."
>
> Joshua Maurice wrote:
> > Probably most people here haven't had time to look at 15k lines
> > of code and form an evaluation of it.
>
> As I gradually do more and more debugging of each AI Mind, people will not
> need to inspect the code so much as simply to interact with the AI.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Arthur
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:50 AM Steve Richfield <
> steve.richfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Arthur,
>>
>> I have been one of your few supporters, but if you are going to usefully
>> engage with the present audience, you REALLY need to answer two questions,
>> that if done well will lead to other questions, that will lead to a useful
>> conversation...
>>
>> 1.  THEORY: In broad computer science terms, how does your system work?
>> From what I can tell, it is an ad hoc text manipulation program capable of
>> gathering information and answering simple questions within the limited
>> subject domains that have been programmed. Right?
>>
>> 2.  APPLICATION: What will your approach be able to do that the machine
>> learning approaches discussed here can never ever be extended to do, and
>> why? For example, my system works to diagnose chronic illnesses in a way
>> that can NEVER EVER be equalled with ML approaches. From what I can tell,
>> your system might be extended to make a really good military inventory
>> program.
>>
>> As with all AI programs, their authors have dreams for them that exceed
>> everyone else's expectations, and you and I are no exceptions. I understand
>> that ONLY ad hoc logic will EVER be capable of incorporating human
>> understanding of our world into a computer, a simple fact that is
>> universally rejected by others on this forum for NO good non-religious
>> reason. So, until others here wake up, at minimum, I should be able to
>> relate to your postings. If you can't carry me along, then you truly are
>> COMPLETELY wasting your time and your life by continuing to post.
>>
>> Steve Richfield
>>
>>
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