True, language is a rare dish whose recipe includes intelligence; it adapts to knowledge and it is a complex space too. At the very least, some languages are more modern that the contents of their corpus.

On 08.03.2019 17:12, Matt Mahoney wrote:
Language is essential to every job that we might use AGI for. There is no job that you could do without the ability to communicate with people. Even guide dogs and bomb sniffing dogs have to understand verbal commands.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 7:25 PM Robert Levy <r.p.l...@gmail.com <mailto:r.p.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's very easy to show that "AGI should not be designed for NL". Just ask yourself the following questions:

    1. How many species demonstrate impressive leverage of intentional
    behaviors?  (My answer would be: all of them, though some more
    than others)
    2. How many species have language (My answer: only one)
    3. How biologically different do you think humans are from apes?
    (My answer: not much different, the whole human niche is probably
    a consequence one adaptive difference: cooperative communication
    by scaffolding of joint attention)

    I'm with Rodney Brooks on this, the hard part of AGI has nothing
    to do with language, it has to do with agents being highly
    optimized to control an environment in terms of ecological
    information supporting perception/action. Just as uplifting apes
    will likely require only minor changes, uplifting animaloid AGI
    will likely require only minor changes.  Even then we still
    haven't explicitly cared about language, we've cared about
    cooperation by means of joint attention, which can be made use of
    culturally develop language.

    On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:05 PM Boris Kazachenko
    <cogno...@gmail.com <mailto:cogno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I would be more than happy to pay:
        https://github.com/boris-kz/CogAlg/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
        , but I don't think you are working on AGI.
        No one here does, this is a NLP chatbot crowd. Anyone who
        thinks that AGI should be designed for NL data as a primary
        input is profoundly confused.


        On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 7:04 AM Stefan Reich via AGI
        <agi@agi.topicbox.com <mailto:agi@agi.topicbox.com>> wrote:

            Not from you guys necessarily... :o) But I thought I'd let
            you know.

            Pitch:
            
https://www.meetup.com/Artificial-Intelligence-Meetup/messages/boards/thread/52050719

            Let's see if it can be done... funny how some hurdles
            always seem to appear when you're about to finish
            something good. Something about the duality of the
            universe I guess.

-- Stefan Reich
            BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems

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