Thank you for your email. You know, it is not about time management and its worth. I am here to learn and I appreciate your comments and criticism.
What approach would you suggest that will never lead to undefined? On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 3:25 PM Jim Bromer <jimbro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mohammadreza said, "I think "intelligence" means optimization. So, if it > is true, how can we tell an AGI agent to act optimally? e.g. with IF-THEN > rules? definitely Not! These rules may lead to unforeseen states." > > If-Then rules are not the only application of discrete reasoning that are > possible. In fact, when you talk about "optimization" you are talking about > using mathematics to describe a discrete 'kind of thing'. Mathematical > formula can lead to unforeseen states when they are applied to > computational issues. Turing's Halting Problem is an example (- I am > assuming that 'undefined' has a strong relation to 'unforeseen' as you used > it.) You need to apply the mathematics to a 'kind of situation' and the > idea that your mathematical formula might not lead to 'unforeseen states' > when it is actually being used is naïve. > > Multiplication of an integer product has an uneven compressibility rate. > OK, maybe I am talking about division. Division not only has a uneven > compressibility rate it has an uneven deterministic rate. This has nothing > to do with your paper.. So now the choice you have is: Do you take the time > to understand what I am talking about? Do you take the time to understand > how this might apply to your interest in AI / AGI? These are not trivial > problems for you solve. How do you come to a conclusion about whether you > should take the time to try to understand my criticism (and how it might be > relevant to you) if I cannot make it easy for you to understand in a few > minutes of reading? The conference is just about to start. Is it really > worth your time to think about what I am trying to say? Right now it is not > worth your time to respond. In a few years it will probably be very > relevant to what you would like to do. > Jim Bromer > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:09 PM Mohammadreza Alidoust < > class.alido...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you. Sure, visualizations help in better understanding. However I >> do not believe that the model contains difficult mathematics. BSc Students >> of control engineering in their third or fourth year, study state-space >> representation in their Modern Control Engineering course. >> >> Anyway, I think AGI is NOT POSSIBLE without mathematics. >> I think "intelligence" means optimization. So, if it is true, how can we >> tell an AGI agent to act optimally? e.g. with IF-THEN rules? definitely >> Not! These rules may lead to unforeseen states. >> All of the AI algorithms have a mathematical formulation behind. Can >> anyone name an AI algorithm which has no mathematical background? >> >> I think if the hypothesis "intelligence is optimization" is true, we have >> to, first devise an optimization framework for our problem space. That >> optimization framework enables our agent to act intelligent in that space. >> AGI is, in my view, an infinite problem-space. So, the question is: What >> is able to cover the infinite better than the mathematics? >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 4:31 PM Manuel Korfmann <m...@korfmann.info> >> wrote: >> >>> I guess he meant: It’s difficult to understand all these mathematical >>> equations. Visualizations are better at transporting ideas in a way that >>> almost everyone can understand easily. >>> >>> On 31. Jul 2019, at 13:46, Mohammadreza Alidoust < >>> class.alido...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for reading my paper. I wish you success too. >>> >>> Could you please explain more about the readership? I am afraid I did >>> not get the point. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Mohammadreza Alidoust >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 2:14 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If someone paid me to go, I'd go... :-) >>>> >>>> > http://agi-conf.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/paper_21.pdf >>>> >>>> I like the stages you define in your paper (infancy, decision making, >>>> expert). Sounds reasonable. >>>> >>>> I pretty much erased mathematical formulas from my brain though, even >>>> though I have studied those things. These days I prefer to think in natural >>>> language or code. Increases the readership exponentially too. :-) >>>> >>>> Many greetings and best wishes to you >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:13, Mohammadreza Alidoust < >>>> class.alido...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Stefan Reich, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. I do not know whether submitting my paper before official >>>>> publication by Springer is against their copyrights or not. I am not sure >>>>> about their rules. I will ask the authorities when I arrived Shenzhen and >>>>> inform you. >>>>> >>>>> However I recommend not to miss the AGI-19. >>>>> http://agi-conf.org/2019/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Mohammadreza Alidoust >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stefan Reich >>>> BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems >>>> >>> >>> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf27122c71ce3b240-M63398ca068fd849c87e36b04> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf27122c71ce3b240-Mb4af70df403ca73f32998ed6 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
