________________________________ From: immortal.discover...@gmail.com <immortal.discover...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 08 November 2019 07:49 To: AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> Subject: [agi] Re: Leggifying "Friendly Intelligence" and "Zombies"
On Thursday, November 07, 2019, at 11:31 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: irrational persons accept the state of this world and seek and enjoy the beauty it has to offer. they are motivated to do good to others and sustain the world for all persons equally. they even buy and build robots for fun. irrational persons are the minority. therefore, they do not count. my hope is that the dominant, alien species inhabiting earth, would be irrational too. Hmm....evolution does advance. >>>Humankind generally do not have thousands of years to be able to observe the >>>rational evolution of diversification. At best, we have Science's word for >>>it. Because time, therefore advance. It's a causal relationship . Thus, >>>advancement is relative and a moot point in this regard. Civilizations often >>>regress and tribes and species do go extinct. These are irrational people indeed, >> If anyone noticed, the new world is an irrational world. doing good is advancing tech and equalizing the nodes so all truly can have lunch; Africans. >>> That's your opinion. Do some basic research to observe the devastating >>> effect "advancing" tech had on rural communities in Africa (citing your >>> example). With the help of the IMF and the World Bank (mostly) it >>> "modernized" their way of life and polluted their natural habitat to the >>> point where they could not use their traditional methods to take care of >>> themselves anymore. Try raising a family adjacent to a grand, refinery in >>> the midst of toxic, air pollutants, hectares of leaky pipes and storage >>> tanks. See how advanced you end up being then because of rational do >>> "gooders". Doing good is being able to regenerate yourself if nearly destroyed. >>> So you're saying that doing "good" (a subjectively, relative term) is >>> advancing your own survival at the cost of anything else? Screw the world >>> and its downtrodden? Screw earth and the death of the oceans? Screw >>> millions of innocent children as casualties of rational wars? As long as >>> you're OK, right? That sounds most rational to me. AIs will not stay in the state we see, your environment will be ultra high tech. >>> You do not know what my environment is, but it's highly likely you would >>> end up being incorrect. Who needs ultra high tech? Only rational persons do. Artificial General Intelligence List<https://agi.topicbox.com/latest> / AGI / see discussions<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T251f13454e6192d4-Mfb3f2472f6d1032d403e21fa> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T251f13454e6192d4-M65d0db5e1b3b2237f83633ea Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
