Hi Mike, One of the problems in this grip on 'understanding' or 'knowing' is a confusion of competency in knowing X as having anything to do with general intelligence. When the time comes I could probably toss my hat into the ring on this. I recently had an opportunity to explain this to a bunch of year 12 wizkids here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtTt6MvIOig Maybe it would do as a primer. It's a half hour. Skip to 20 minutes to cut to the chase on my take for purposes here. cheers colin
On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:15 AM Mike Archbold <jazzbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/9/21, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Note that I avoided the word "understand" in my post, and, instead, used > > the word "comprehend". Others have brought in the notion of "value" to > the > > notion of "understanding"; they bring up "relevance" to one's "goals" > etc. > > I suppose, therefore, one might say that one achieves "understanding" > when > > one "comprehends" the relationship between an object (say, pi) and one's > > decisions (say, I'm considering building a geodesic dome for my family). > > Knowledge? Epistemology doesn't place any _rigorous_ demands on us > > regarding comprehension (in the Chaitin sense), does it? (Please excuse > > the prior misspelling of Chaitin.) > > > > I see. From what I've read of Thorisson's work on understanding, he > includes a situation's relevance to goals. > > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 5:06 PM Mike Archbold <jazzbo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks James and Immortal. My plan is for the group to discuss the > >> highlights of pretty much each definition of understanding I > >> accumulate (details forthcoming)... > >> > >> On 7/9/21, immortal.discover...@gmail.com > >> <immortal.discover...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > I.e. not so much is it about what you understand, but rather what you > >> > already know (memories to match). ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf91e2eafa2515120-M06898e6df940d663de354663 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription