I want to ask this list, what does it really mean to be indistinguishable from human? Maybe the whole problem arises from Turing's notion that a truly intelligent machine should be basically so good at deception that it imitate human sociality to perfection.
Even then, that's that, simulation is not reality. AI will perform better than human intelligence. It already https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.22405 . But unless we're in a hypothetical pan-psychic universe where machines and humans have merged altogether, there is going to be much to distinguish and consider in life than estimates of self and consciousness based on social interactions and learned self-preservation. We still don't give property and personhood to apes and dolphins. How alone in the universe one must be to make a machine that would talk to him like a fellow traveler and then let it replace himself. regards, Shashank https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/ ---- On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 21:31:41 +0530 Mark Nuzz <[email protected]> wrote --- > when one starts wishing (even actively lobbying) for a legal personhood of AI > models. This seems to be the case here. Kaczynski warned about this. It is > also laughable, and a recipe for disaster, to accord infallible trust in some > chosen technologists. Does the argument hold up after AI becomes indistinguishable from human? Smart contracts do seem like a way forward though. The rate of technological change is faster than we can keep up with now, so don't take anything for granted! On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 9:07 PM Shashank Yadav < mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > Assuming that the only way to make a machine safe and useful is by offering > it a compensation is turbocharged anthropomorphism betraying particular > leanings. We have smart contracts for such scenarios (more or less, if things > are happening on computer networks). Problem arises when one starts wishing > (even actively lobbying) for a legal personhood of AI models. This seems to > be the case here. Kaczynski warned about this. It is also laughable, and a > recipe for disaster, to accord infallible trust in some chosen technologists. > > > regards, Shashank > The task is not impossible. > > > > > > ---- On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 04:06:17 +0530 Matt Mahoney < > mailto:[email protected] > wrote --- > > Does this even make sense? Should AI be compensated for doing what we want it > to do? > > https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/vxfEtbCwmZKu9hiNr/proposal-for-making-credible-commitments-to-ais > > > -- Matt Mahoney, mailto:[email protected] > > > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tba3441daa3852b75-M9767750086a153fa145c20f2 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
