And AI can pass the Turing test already. So what? Outside the test conditions 
there is no indistinguishably from humans. That is where my question came from. 

Passing the test only means a great deception of human sociality - and we 
(seeking a conscious agency and meaning in everything) do love to deceive 
ourselves - treating it we might a conscious human that we've to compensate to 
be safe from. 





regards, Shashank

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---- On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 06:50:48 +0530 Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> 
wrote ---



On Wed, Jul 2, 2025, 8:00 PM Shashank Yadav < mailto:[email protected] 
> wrote:



Turing test is anything but a test of consciousness. We don't have such a test. 
We just tend to believe something is conscious when it acts in a manner 
relatable to us.







Of course. Turing discussed consciousness in section 6.4 of his 1950 paper. It 
is irrelevant to winning the imitation game.

https://courses.cs.umbc.edu/471/papers/turing.pdf 



Of course he was right. The question of whether machines can think has been 
debated endlessly, even after Turing defined a test that makes the question 
irrelevant. That turned out to be correct when the test was passed 72 years 
later.



We have senses of consciousness, qualia, and free will. These feelings 
originate from internal positive reinforcement of computation, input, and 
output, respectively. These signals evolved to motivate us to not lose them by 
dying, which results in more offspring.



-- Matt Mahoney, mailto:[email protected] 








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