Well, that's smart detailed roboticist thinking. But it's also too detailed
here.
So let's make it the Wox Test:
GO TO THE KITCHEN AND GET THE BOX (& screw the coffee or Alan will have a
fit)
That is still an AGI test - and it still illustrates the **conceptual
thinking necessary to enable a real world AGI to adapt to, and navigate
multiform environments** -
Conceptual thought (wh. has sweet fa to do with maths and logic) enables an
agent to conceive of GO-ING (which covers multi- to infini- forms and
routes of action/ locomotion/travel) to (and through) KITCHENS (which
covers multi- to infini- forms of a given environmnent). That's the kind of
thinking that will power AGI robotics (& no other kind of AGI is possible).
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Grimes
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:09 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] How Steve can be creative P.S.
;)
With that in mind, I went out and bought the most obnoxiously antiquated
coffee making apparatus I could find. I have a hand grinder, which is
challenging to operate because you have to hold it down while you're
turning the crank, which fights back very chaotically as it hits
different beans, different types of coffee also also affect how easy it
is to turn the crank. Also, the drawer is much too small so you have to
empty it three or four times before the bowl is fully ground.
Once that is done, you need to set up the percolator. You need to check
that it is clean and ready for use, then you have to set the top aside,
pull the column out, remove the spreader, measure out the correct
quantity of grounds into the basket, replace the spreader, blow any
stray grounds off of the base of the column, fill the pot to the correct
line, which is faintly stamped into the side of the pot near the handle.
Then you have to put the column into the pot, replace the lid, and then
put the entire assembly on the stove, light the burner then set it to on
the low side of medium. I found the temperature of the handle is a good
proxy indicator of when it's done, when it is almost too hot to handle,
you're done. (about 10-12 minutes all told)
With the right beans, this process does produce a very smooth, rich
coffee; not very dark though.
pour, add sugar, serve. =P
What? Did you expect me to let the robot use a K-cup machine? =P
Mike Tintner wrote:
*P.S. Steve,*
**
*Just so you (& Sergio) & others start to get an inkling of where this
is going, and what it has to do with AGI, and why it is the v. centre of
AGI, think back to the Woz test. Remember, that test is going to take
the form of the robot being told - just as any human can be told:*
**
* GO TO THE KITCHEN (& MAKE COFFEE)*
**
**
That’s it, that’s all you need to tell any human in any normal house –
and the rest is history. So that’s what our robot AGI will have to be
able to understand and respond to.
So please express those concepts which are pivotal to AGI in math.
notation:
GO
TO
THE
KITCHEN
and please explain how a robot or any real world agent can understand
your notation so as to complete the task indicated.
--
E T F
N H E
D E D
Powers are not rights.
-------------------------------------------
AGI
Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5
Modify Your Subscription:
https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
-------------------------------------------
AGI
Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393
Modify Your Subscription:
https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
