Concepts exists in some goo no? They are represented in atoms, a subset of brain matter. For math, that is enough as you “could” derive the mathematical foundation from that which is represented in atoms, not that you’d want to, but it could theoretically be done.
Symbols need not be letters and numbers but anything that holds data. Blades of grass can be a numbering system and the waving of them in the wind a mathematical formula, a calculation. John From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]] What is commonly called language, but should in fact be known as conceptual thinking, is indeed “general high-level thinking” - and is a totally different and separate higher LEVEL of thought to the far lower, specific levels of maths and logic. Steve’s response was v. useful, because it shows that he like most people sees no significant difference between logic, maths and language/conceptual thought – they are more or less “alternatives” to him & our culture – you can use one or the other. Not so. Conceptual thought is totally beyond computers at the moment. It is truly general thought - the essential medium of general intelligence/AGI. If you can’t do concepts you can’t do AGI. And the best demonstration of this is by comparing concepts with their mathematical equivalents. Concepts have vastly, infinitely broad spheres of reference by comparison. A mathematical square is always a mathematical square. A conceptual square can be a square circle or a town square that never was square or a fragmented square or.a square snake .... – and in fact can embrace ***any conceivable deformation and transformation** of the mathematical square. Concepts are multiform/infiniform – mathematical and logical objects are uniform. Concepts enable us to do AGI - to adapt creatively to an everchanging, evernew multiform/infiniform real world. But more later... ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
