John, On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM, John G. Rose <[email protected]>wrote:
> Numerology LOL. Like "Evidence Based Medicine" it isn't so funny when you see how much is wasted on it. > Believe it or not, I'm actually starting to see some merit > in Astrology, with astronomical cycles, there is something there worth > exploring. Yes, the solar system is a gigantic clock - for the otherwise timing impaired. > And they should teach abstract algebra in grade school and the > specifics later. I sure did with my kids. Even the ability to state real world phenomena in calculus notation is pretty simple, if you initially shield them from the nasties of having to then solve those equations. With calculus, the next step is teaching them to pilot a Table of Integrals, which is plenty enough for any PhD engineer. Actually solving integrals like they teach in calculus classes really has no real-world applications. A stub is provided by the basic curriculum, but not much. > > Computing rationality is glocal I think, akin to compressors sometimes > expanding. So irrationality has to be looked at in that way. Perhaps in > studying compression we should explore expansion as well in such a way as > irrationality should be explored. Most of us here are assuming AGI will be > intelligent when in fact it might be stupid, I have long suspected that there is a sort of optimum intelligence, beyond which the rewards are negative. That some mentally impaired people can go on to become geniuses simply by learning to think in a more organized way strongly suggests that we are all working FAR below our potentials. We would probably all be smarter if the advantages (like outwitting the world) exceeded the disadvantages (like appearing to be dangerous). Here, AGIs have been drawing fire for years, and their very existence isn't even on the near-term horizon. as sometimes exceptionally > brilliant individuals are relegated to the fringes of society and may seem > irrational. They are operating within different paradigms. > I have posted in the past about some of our civilization-ending practices that an AGI should feel compelled to stop - which would be resisted by pretty much everyone (excluding me) on this forum. The only potential "success" path that I can see for AGIs closely parallels the *Colossus* trilogy, but I just can't see anyone letting this happen, leaving NO potential success path, even if the technology were to somehow be made workable. > > Could there be an algebraic structure of action functionals that is the > mitigating paradigmatic interloper amongst the various environmental > computational models in AGI? Hmm.... > Add that to my list of prospective end-arounds to the complexity. Could you hang a little more meat on these bare bones? Steve ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
