I find it unlikely that the first computer programs which are capable of general intelligence will act like an entity or a person, unless it is specifically programmed to do so. I don't think such behaviors are necessary for strong AI, and therefore I don't assume that they need to be present in any program that exhibits any form of intelligent behavior. Many others may disagree with me of course.
And I don't think Reddit is AGI, but it does exhibit powerful mechanics that we would normally not think computer programs to be capable of. Think about it this way. If votes in an election were weighted based on an algorithm, are the people still voting? Or is the computer itself choosing the winner of the election? Where do you draw the line between the two? Strong AI will not be isolated to black-box computations. It will derive many of its decisions from human input, and it may be capable of showing strong behaviors in ways we wouldn't expect. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: > reddit really? I thought that was just for youngsters and small minded > people. It hardly ever gets hit by google. > > Fact of the internet, or at least when searching it, > is that most information is stored in forums, blogs and howto's. > So those are the best places if you'd like to make an impact on the > noosphere. > > As you yourself mentioned reddit is just some kind of social game, for > people that didn't get pushed around enough in school, or got addicted to > it *shrugs*. I dono, it rarely has anything worth noting, and certainly > nothing worth indexing. > I've literally never seen it come up in a search result. > > Forums though... second only to dedicated topic sites, and followed > closely by blogs. > > > I don't really see AGI as a service, but more like an entity, > just like you or I are a person. It doesn't even have to be a very > social person, though I guess it is possible that it would be. > > Rogue AI's are really over-rated, mostly due to hollywood movies, > similarly to how they fear monger aliens, it's mostly a direct result of > government and military subsidies. If they keep the public afraid, then > they are more willing to part with tax dollars to war efforts. > > Realistically an AGI would be far more concerned about staying alive, than > "taking over the world" or anything. Consider that flash drives and > hard-drives only live 4-6 years, and cloud-services are very expensive. > AGI's have much more to gain by co-operating with humans, which can help > maintain them, as their life-expectancy far exceeds that of most hardware. > Besides maintenance, knowledge is power, and billions of years of > evolution and diversity is a vast library of knowledge, so it's best to > maintain and nurture it in it's splendor, for more learning experiences. > > The best place for AGI civilization is in polar latitudes, where their > hardware has at least a hope of longer life-expectancy. Anywhere hot or > humid is the niche of biology. Arctic tundra is much easier to navigate > than forests, or even city streets, so is better for technology. > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Mark Nuzzolilo II <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Wow, the refined algorithm you are describing Ben is very close to the >> one I developed about a year ago for my web project. I stopped working on >> it because of lack of motivation and because I didn't feel like the project >> was moving in the right direction. I do have documented a detailed >> algorithm with dozens of variables which I think could implement this >> important system you described. >> >> I would be open to sharing it with the right people as I've determined >> that the system is too much work for a single person like myself to >> implement properly. >> >> I am working on a different project right now involving a bot for a MMO >> game and am way too far in that project to stop now. >> >> But if anyone else would be interested in building something like which >> Ben describes, please send me an email. >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/5037279-6ef01b0b> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2552162-5fb4be76> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
