I worked for a Knowledge Management company starting in 2000 that developed a pretty nice product. I designed and led implementation of their database and assorted parts of the backend. Unfortunately the product was aimed at the enterprise. The first words out of my mouth in the interview were "Why don't we build something like this for everyone". I miss that tool as we very much "ate our own dog food". The one I am building will answer that itch from back then.
It bugs me that I have worked getting computers to do things for most of my adult life and yet my computational systems do so little to make my own life better. Way back before there was such a thing as a personal computer it was obvious to me that the only way to remotely begin to keep up with and grasp much of all the things I was interested in was with a computer. To this day we don't have the tools to do that reasonably well. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Samantha Atkins <[email protected]> wrote: > The Brain is part of the competition. There are a few things I like about > their product and things that I don't. I think for mainly hierarchical > relationship capture (with a nod to 'siblings' which they have some support > for) they have a pretty nice interface. And you can add notes, tags and so > on their nodes. The tag search is rudimentary. There is no real support > for say finding all objects related to a given object by a named > relationship except by going to that object in the GUI and walking its > graph. Which is fine if that is all you needed and you have a platform > with their GUI installed rather than say a smart phone at hand. No > creating actual classes/types. IIRC you don't really have actual named > relation roles much. And there is no general API to query your knowledge > so captured. The other thing that ticked me off a bit as a user is that > their license only supports 2 systems per > $100 license. Which isn't very > good for people like me. I have 3 machines at home I actively work on and > at least one more at work. > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There was a Lotus product called Magellan that used a tree control to >> allow you to create different typed entities and relationships between them. >> >> Those entities could be OLAP objects documents, spreadsheets, diagrams >> etc... >> >> It really cried for a more visual interface though. >> >> People could see how powerful it was but Lotus never did a good job of >> demonstrating how it could do complex data management chores. >> >> If they had done that a published a programmatic API it may have taken >> off like Lotus Notes. >> >> It was limited to search and what you could do with macros if I remember >> right. >> >> Another early product that gave flexible adhoc data storage was called >> AskSam. >> >> It's still being sold but seems to be pretty outrageously priced in my >> opinion for what it does. >> >> I often wished that Microsoft would have developed Visio more putting SQL >> Server database tools behind it to allow it to be used as graphical >> database. >> >> For enterprise hardware/network architecture reporting and data capture >> of serial numbers and configuration parameters such as system would be very >> powerful. >> >> With an good programmatic API such a system could also be tied into a >> monitoring system and allow for enterprise hardware/software monitoring. >> >> Of course it would also add a lot of new functionality to the kind of >> mind mapping and adhoc knowledge data capture of which you speak. >> >> One product that seems to have some promise is The Brain 8.0 >> >> http://www.thebrain.com/ >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Samantha Atkins" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AGI" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Monday, December 30, 2013 7:32:13 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [agi] A Random Thought... >> >> It is so utterly different I hardly know where to begin. >> >> A page is just a place to post and comment and stuff a few files. It >> cannot not be used to create new classes and populate instances or to >> relate any items (most of which pages cannot even define) in any way you >> chose (labeled graphs) or even accept tags nor does it provide much of any >> query capability, certainly not by tags, object properties, relationships >> to other things, time entered, type of thing and so on in any combination >> desired. >> >> A page is more like a [very limited] blog in many ways. Totally >> different beast. Also remember version #1 is strictly personal, not a >> social network thing at all. It is foremost a tool for extending your own >> mind. When it does become more social thing a Page or Group that >> automatically shows you the up-to-date opt-in parts of the participants >> extended mind that is relevant to and allowed to be seen by that particular >> Group/Page/Mind View. :) >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Piaget Modeler < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Samantha, >>> >>> How is that different from Facebook Pages? >>> >>> ~PM >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:02:37 -0800 >>> >>> Subject: Re: [agi] A Random Thought... >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Russell Wallace < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> That does have the great merit of aiming for a category of products in >>> which many instances are known to be useful! Though, what domain would you >>> aim for? >>> >>> >>> The one I am currently working on is Personal Knowledge Management. >>> Think all the URLs, files, photos, events,PIM-ish things and pretty much >>> anything you care to remember. Anything you want to wrap a type with >>> properties around as well. All tagged however you like and with arbitrary >>> dynamic relationships between them. Toss in location and time of entry >>> automatic associations. Easy to remember information, tag and associate >>> it and easy to find information and browse linkages you may not even have >>> been aware existed. Basically and extended associative memory fused with >>> more or less object database abilities available from mobile devices, >>> computers and on the web with transparent synchronization. >>> >>> Phase #1 is strictily personal - your stuff only. Phase #2 will add >>> more social and group knowledge maps and being able to share sub-maps. >>> Phase #3 adds opt-in data mining and automated agents to seek new relevant >>> information from the web automatically and process gathered knowledge to >>> date in various to be defined ways. Part of phase #2 may include things >>> like automatic group member notifications or updates of online groups with >>> relevant entries from any of the members with strict user permission of >>> what parts of their knowledge map can be shared with whom. >>> >>> Moving slow moonlighting the webapp version and building out the back >>> end. >>> >>> - samantha >>> >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2997756-fc0b9b09> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/231626-9e6d07de> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/2997756-fc0b9b09> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
