If someone that has opencog build would just push it into a vm image or a juju charm (ubuntu) or whatever that would save a lot of hassle. Especially if it was one of the common image types so it could be loaded on most any linux and in most any cloud. So can someone maybe fix up its build script to automatically produce one of those if they haven't already?

- s

On 03/31/2014 11:35 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote:

Yeah... following the build instructions for OpenCog on Ubuntu works fairly robustly. On other Linux versions it may require some fiddling. If you really care you can install an Ubuntu VM, right?

But this sort of thing is pretty common among open source Linux software, it's not really to do with specific novel OpenCog code but rather with various external dependencies that the code has, because of relying on various existing code libraries...

About nested realities, ContextLink and HypotheticalLink would be the mechanisms used in PLN semantics for this sort of representation.... The current PLN implementation does not support these robustly yet, but the logic is worked out on paper...

-- Ben



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Anastasios Tsiolakidis <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    probably the wrong list to rant about OpenCog, unless you were
    edited off the OC group like my rants usually are :) Anyway, they
    could start with better Ubuntu support, right now it is a bit
    random building and running the stuff, depending on which minor
    version of a package or another you have.  I can't see the purpose
    of building general intelligence with gcc version 3.5.2.4 *only*,
    just like I don't see why general intelligence should be build
    with "advanced" use of a bewildering mix of software tools. I am
    all for integration across toolkits and systems but they should be
    at least half-understandable and half portable.

    Meanwhile, it would help me immensely if someone could explain how
    nested realities are represented in OpenCog, for example me
    talking about Harry Potter's first encounter with
    magical/invisible train platforms. Disclaimer: I have long ago
    asserted that it is such spontaneous hierarchies of thought,
    speech and reality that lie at the core of our cognitive
    abilities, and we enter such minute and uncharted regions of
    problem space that break purely statistical tools.

    AT




    On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Azn A <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        :(


        On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Alan Grimes
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I finally came across the reported "linux install
            instructions". What I
            found was that they were heavily ubuntu specific and
            couldn't reasonably
            be carried out on any non-debian based distro. =|

            The thing really seemed to hump Ubuntu and seemed to be
            much more
            intimate with the system as a whole than any piece of
            software should be.

            If you honestly want to support linux, just be compatible
            with the
            goddamned standard!

            http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/lsb.shtml
            http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

            and adhere to all conventions with respect to package
            design and best
            practices!!! =|

            GAH!!!!

            --
            IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

            Powers are not rights.



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