And then place the image into a Mind Server.
~PM

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:51:28 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [agi] Ubuntu support versus Linux support.


  
    
  
  
    If someone that has opencog build would just push it into a vm image
    or a juju charm (ubuntu) or whatever that would save a lot of
    hassle.  Especially if it was one of the common image types so it
    could be loaded on most any linux and in most any cloud.   So can
    someone maybe fix up its build script to automatically produce one
    of those if they haven't already?

    

    - s

    

    On 03/31/2014 11:35 PM, Ben Goertzel
      wrote:

    
    
      

        Yeah... following the build instructions for
          OpenCog on Ubuntu works fairly robustly.  On other Linux
          versions it may require some fiddling.   If you really care
          you can install an Ubuntu VM, right?
        

        
        But this sort of thing is pretty common among open
          source Linux software, it's not really to do with specific
          novel OpenCog code but rather with various external
          dependencies that the code has, because of relying on various
          existing code libraries...
        

        
        About nested realities, ContextLink and
          HypotheticalLink would be the mechanisms used in PLN semantics
          for this sort of representation....  The current PLN
          implementation does not support these robustly yet, but the
          logic is worked out on paper...
        

        
        -- Ben
        

        
      
      

        

        On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM,
          Anastasios Tsiolakidis <[email protected]>
          wrote:

          
            probably the wrong list to rant about
              OpenCog, unless you were edited off the OC group like my
              rants usually are :) Anyway, they could start with better
              Ubuntu support, right now it is a bit random building and
              running the stuff, depending on which minor version of a
              package or another you have.  I can't see the purpose of
              building general intelligence with gcc version 3.5.2.4
              *only*, just like I don't see why general intelligence
              should be build with "advanced" use of a bewildering mix
              of software tools. I am all for integration across
              toolkits and systems but they should be at least
              half-understandable and half portable.
              
                

              
              Meanwhile, it would help me immensely if someone
                could explain how nested realities are represented in
                OpenCog, for example me talking about Harry Potter's
                first encounter with magical/invisible train platforms.
                Disclaimer: I have long ago asserted that it is such
                spontaneous hierarchies of thought, speech and reality
                that lie at the core of our cognitive abilities, and we
                enter such minute and uncharted regions of problem space
                that break purely statistical tools.
              
                  

                  
                  AT
                  

                  
                  

                  
                
            

              

              On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:24 AM,
                Azn A <[email protected]>
                wrote:

                
                  :(
                  

                    

                    
                      On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Alan Grimes
                        <[email protected]>
                        wrote:

                      
                      
                        I finally came across the reported "linux
                          install instructions". What I

                          found was that they were heavily ubuntu
                          specific and couldn't reasonably

                          be carried out on any non-debian based distro.
                          =|

                          

                          The thing really seemed to hump Ubuntu and
                          seemed to be much more

                          intimate with the system as a whole than any
                          piece of software should be.

                          

                          If you honestly want to support linux, just be
                          compatible with the

                          goddamned standard!

                          

                          http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/lsb.shtml

                          http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

                          

                          and adhere to all conventions with respect to
                          package design and best

                          practices!!! =|

                          

                          GAH!!!!

                          

                          --

                          IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

                          

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