Entropy (in math rather than thermodynamics) is just a way of looking at probability distributions ... sometimes a very convenient way ... if probability is relevant to AGI (which I think it is) then entropy is relevant....
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Jim Bromer via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > Ideas like entropy and thermodynamic principles have little relevance > as fundamental principles for contemporary AI / AGI. The relevance to > these ideas are artifacts of Shannon's thinking. They are not central > to the ideas that might be abstracted and utilized effectively for > creating artificial intelligence. > > One mind may make sense of external data that would look like entropic > dissipation (or noise) to another. Entropy is therefore both relative > and subjective. So, for example, if you were able to measure the > 'entropy' of a system of related events in an AGI program and wanted > to use this measure to determine causality, you would end up measuring > the ability of the system to organize previously learned knowledge > around the events. Relative subjective 'entropy' could be reduced by > any organizing methods regardless of the usefulness of those > organizing methods. Therefore, the thought that this method can serve > as a fundamental principle of mind is misdirected. You can seize on > any principle of subjective state of mind and try to claim that it is > somehow fundamental to mind but it has never taken anyone where we > want to go. > > You might abstract principles from other theories and say that they > are relevant to some situation or some method of analysis, but to try > to use them as the basis as a fundamental principle of mind is really > out there. The fundamental principles of AGI have to be fundamental to > thought. > > I have applied the method of my criticism to my own thinking and I > have examined this criticism from different points of view and I still > think this is a substantial critical view point. > > Jim Bromer > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
