It is a very good read, a great summary, thanks Ben for making those 375 pages available to us.
>From my dynamical systems question in regards to predicting the date of the Singularity from a "before Singularity" perspective, the technological "shifts" are covered in Ben's document subjectively. Kurzweil has his extrapolation model, I haven't read his book... A difference in prediction of Singularity date verses predicting some other systems date for example a weather phenomenon is that for Singularity, AGI development itself is a deterministic factor. But IMO Singularity might occur without an a priori arrival at an AGI instance individually but at AGI in technological systems collectively. John > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Paul Van Belle [mailto:jean-paul.vanbe...@uct.ac.za] > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 12:23 PM > To: a...@listbox.com; John Rose > Subject: RE: [agi] Ten Years to the Singularity If We Really Really Try? -- > New/old essay collection of mine published via Humanity+ Press > > John wrote: > > Is the date of the Singularity or any future date for that matter hardcoded > in time? > Yes, because that's when we (or, rather, they) will start a new calendar ... > everything we say and write now will be known as 'BS' - Before Singularity ;-) > @Ben - thanks for putting your book together and making it available free of > charge... a very nice read despite having read most of it before and it actually > flows/fits quite well. > ________________________________________ > From: John Rose via AGI [a...@listbox.com] > Sent: 27 December 2014 18:24 > To: AGI > Subject: RE: [agi] Ten Years to the Singularity If We Really Really Try? -- > New/old essay collection of mine published via Humanity+ Press > > Is the date of the Singularity or any future date for that matter hardcoded in > time? > > Our perspective of the calendar "date" either way changes as time goes > forward since there are factors that chaotically influence the date. I haven't > really studied prediction but from what I know the predicted date could be a > dynamical system, looking at it 2 dimensionally as we progress through time > certain factors cause the predicted occurrence to change chaotically. Would > this be an ergodic system with time and other measures invariant? Could the > date statistically emerge from the dynamical system a particular way? > > As far as the Singularity I believe there will be particular "shifts" that will > become more and more evident as we get closer. These will be shifts in > technologies perhaps occurring in waves. Some of these shifts I think have > already been happening. They will become more and more noticeable... Has > anyone written anything about this? > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Goertzel via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:59 PM > > To: AGI > > Subject: [agi] Ten Years to the Singularity If We Really Really Try? > > -- New/old essay collection of mine published via Humanity+ Press > > > > Hey folks, > > > > I have gathered together some of my old (2008-2011) essays from H+ > > Magazine and elsewhere, into a book released via Humanity+ Press, see > > > > http://humanityplus.org/projects/press/ > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Years-Singularity-Really-Try/dp/1505550823 > > > > http://goertzel.org/TenYearsToTheSingularity.pdf > > > > Happy Newtonmas ;-) > > > > > > -- Ben > > > > -- > > Ben Goertzel, PhD > > http://goertzel.org > > > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one > > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all > > progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/5404257- > 22a42d7f > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > 57-f6ddc65b > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > ________________________________ > UNIVERSITY OF CAPE TOWN > > This e-mail is subject to the UCT ICT policies and e-mail disclaimer published > on our website at http://www.uct.ac.za/about/policies/emaildisclaimer/ or > obtainable from +27 21 650 9111. This e-mail is intended only for the > person(s) to whom it is addressed. If the e-mail has reached you in error, > please notify the author. If you are not the intended recipient of the e-mail > you may not use, disclose, copy, redirect or print the content. If this e-mail is > not related to the business of UCT it is sent by the sender in the sender's > individual capacity. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
