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On 3/19/15, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > The paper looks really interesting. I will try to read it tomorrow or > next week. > > This is my book: > http://www.amazon.com/Approximation-Zero-Philosophical-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/0615882811/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379518890&sr=8-2&keywords=approximation+zero > > The program would *not* be of interest to you, agreed. > > Mike > > On 3/19/15, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think god knows the value of a stock pretty well. Stocks are the >> symptom of the currently collapsing narrative of fear, ego, competition, >> infinite growth despite oversaturated markets, separation, control and >> an incentive system based solely on short time, personal, proprietary >> monetary profit ... basically the narrative which is killing 50,000 to >> 100,000 people every day, the narrative which is dismantling Greece in >> the name of capital, the narrative which forces 85% of the working >> population into pointless, system #bullshitjobs which do not contribute >> anything to society, the narrative which is slowly leading to world war >> 3, the narrative which wastes 85% of our resources via systemic >> transportation, redundancy, planned obsolescence, the externalization of >> costs, etc., ... >> >> So what's the value of a stock and what it stands for? In monetary terms >> probably a very large negative integer (the monetary cost of repairing >> all the damage that has been dealt divided through the market-cap of the >> company in relation to the entire damage) and a large non quantifiable >> amount in the psychological and spiritual context. >> >> It's our contemporary state of absolute dysfunctionality which makes us >> believe that stocks feature any positive value ... and yes I've made a >> lot of money trading futures and stocks and I am not proud of it. >> >> "A child plays and develops his or her gifts but doesn't apply them to >> their true purpose yet. And that's what humanity's been doing - we've >> been messing around, playing with our gifts of technology and culture >> and developing these gifts. Now we're coming into adulthood and it's >> time to apply them to our true purpose. At the beginning this will be to >> heal the damage that's been done and there's a lot of healing that needs >> to be done. It's almost impossible actually. You could could say that >> really we're in the business of creating a miracle here on earth. >> >> It's impossible from an old understanding of reality but possible from a >> new one. In fact it's necessary and anything less than that isn't even >> worth trying." -- http://sacred-economics.com >> >> >> On 19.03.2015 21:28, Mike Archbold wrote: >>> Recently I read the well-known book, A Random Walk Down Wall Street. >>> I highly recommend it. One of my favorite lines from the book is >>> basically (paraphrased) >>> >>> GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT KNOW THE CORRECT VALUE FOR A STOCK. >>> >>> On 3/19/15, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> This should work ... if I find a version that supports copy&paste I >>>> will >>>> let you know (my environmentally unconscious ego still prefers "real" >>>> books). The book is far from perfect ... I would have omitted the >>>> biographical chapters and the humor is kind of weird but it gets more >>>> scientific in the later chapters where he explains how primordial >>>> consciousness evolved and came up with this virtual reality and how and >>>> why consciousness is able to alter reality. But I guess you need some >>>> introduction if you want to reach people who are not yet assuming the >>>> axioms of contemporary science to still be incomplete. >>>> >>>> http://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/06/15/my-big-t-o-e/my-big-t-o-e.pdf >>>> >>>> On 19.03.2015 12:08, Ben Goertzel wrote: >>>>> camel, >>>>> >>>>> the campbell book looks interesting -- do you have a link to an easily >>>>> downloadable e-version? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:57 PM, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Wow, I am speechless. That's just most amazing. You are one of the >>>>>> very, >>>>>> very few highly intellectual people who have overcome this very, very >>>>>> deep >>>>>> cultural belief system. >>>>>> >>>>>> "In my teens and 20s I was pretty confident these phenomena were >>>>>> obviously >>>>>> nothing more than wishful thinking." >>>>>> >>>>>> Same here. I spent half my life doing software engineering and >>>>>> digital >>>>>> electronics. I never even considered that "soul", "life after death", >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> were valid concepts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Give Campbell's book a shot. His humor doesn't really resonate with >>>>>> me >>>>>> but >>>>>> who cares ... he explains PSI in a simple, logical and elegant way. >>>>>> PSI >>>>>> is >>>>>> just a core aspect of this virtual >>>>>> consciousness-evolution-training-environment and given your >>>>>> experience >>>>>> in >>>>>> designing and implementing virtual learning environments and your >>>>>> amazing >>>>>> intellect you will love the beauty behind the implementation of this >>>>>> virtual >>>>>> reality. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for everything you are doing Ben! >>>>>> >>>>>> Back to topic ... ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19.03.2015 11:21, Ben Goertzel wrote: >>>>>>> http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.hk/2015/03/paranormal-phenomena-nonlocal-mind-and.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Ben >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> AGI >>>>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>>> RSS Feed: >>>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 >>>>>> Modify Your Subscription: >>>>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> AGI >>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>> RSS Feed: >>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae >>>> Modify Your Subscription: >>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae >> Modify Your Subscription: >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
