John, et al,

We seem to have two subjects that are merging. I started out discussing
potential halfway points - while you started out discussing single-cell
intelligence.

Suppose for a moment there is a method and associated undiscovered
mathematics underlying intelligence, where the "minimum implementation" of
intelligence might be VERY small - like single cell.

There is plenty of evidence of this in experiments on the lobster
stomagastric ganglion, where each cell does a specific job that has been
identified in the laboratory. However, introduce a birth defect where fewer
cells survive, and they organize differently to do the same job but less
precisely.

The behavior of some bacteria is VERY complex, complete with seek and avoid
behaviors, eating habits, etc.

Consider the following recursive definition of AGI:

1.  Construct a minimal AGI.
2.  Connect a bunch of them into a network.
3.  Construct a network of the above networks.
4.  Construct a network of the above networks.
5.  etc.

Perhaps the ultimate AGI program will look like a recursive factorial
computation, only replacing the multiplication with a lower level AGI.

In society, we have cells, networks of cells that form regions of the
brain, networks of regions that constitute humans, networks of humans ...

Perhaps what is missing in society is what is already there at the cellular
level?!!!

Perhaps "all" that is now missing in AGI is a theoretical understanding of
how a single cell **IS** a complete minimum implementation of an AGI?!!!

If true, this might bring AGI a LOT closer - and predict the failure of
present approaches. At least this deserves a serious look-see.

Steve
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:24 AM, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1 day ago - "Obama Administration Releases National Action Plan to Combat
> Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria" - $1.2 billion
>
> Very interesting. The microbes overcome everything we throw at them how
> could they be intelligent?
>
> People laugh about the concept of microbial intelligence. By many
> definitions they are more intelligent than us, we may lose this battle.
> Let's see, if intelligence has mass which I'm sure no one would dispute,
> and if we add up the mass of all human brains and compare that with the
> mass of all related molecular microbial intelligence I would say that by
> far microbes have more intelligence. Definitely.
>
> Or is that calculation, meant to be humorous, wrong? Intelligence doesn't
> have mass...
>
> "Microbes have more intelligence" <=> "Microbes are more intelligent"
>
> At some point does "more intelligence" beat out the "more intelligent".
>
> John
>
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