Logan,

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Logan Streondj <streo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cosmism seems to be the religion espoused by top tier AGI researchers.
> Namely Ben Goertzel and Hugo De Garis, though some others have also
> written books about Cosmism recently.
>

Create-your-own God. Myself, I prefer our present godless world. Heaven
would be SUCH a drag.

>
> I've always felt my life path was to be a spiritual leader,
>

Spiritual has to do with what can NOT be presently proven false. Now that
there are solid proofs that present religions like Judaism, Christianity,
and Islam are false, some people look to AGI. Of course once constructed,
AGI will no longer be a religion - it will be technology.


> and I'm rather interested in the PR of AGI.
>

What are the bounds on what you call AGI? Does this include uploading?
Downloading? Enhancement of individuals (like you and me) to full AGI
capability? Etc?

Unless you have thought out these questions VERY carefully - MUCH more
carefully than the people you now cite, PR will bring disaster to AGI as
others with different opinions react in unfortunate ways.


> Having a strong group of people that share the vision of beneficial AGI
> future, is conducive to good legislation and funding.
>

No, the most likely result would be legislation AGAINST a potential
world-ending technology. Just like bathroom atomic experimentation is now
illegal, AGI research would become illegal.

However, if you were to "succeed" in attracting "good" legislation and
funding, you would then be up against the situation that SO many have
written about - that there are countless ways that an AGI could destroy us
all, and NO viable approach to protect us from that - leading to our
eventual doom no matter WHAT we did to delay/avoid that end.

>
> Turing Church and some Transhumanist associations seem to be what is
> available.
>

What is REALLY needed is a leader pulling people to a more tractable path.
There is WAY too much that is presently unknown about how we work to ever
program a computer to emulate it, or even understand it, even with
limitless intelligence.

The one shining light I see is to concentrate on technologies leading to
downloading - which is why I have put so much effort into a
super-microscope capable of diagramming brains. My hope is that downloading
outruns the current misdirected wave of people trying to program computers
to think, so PEOPLE remain in charge, rather than a new specie of computer
that has NO interest beyond simple curiosity in our preservation.

In short, given the presence of hazards like Ben and Hugo, downloading
becomes MUCH more than "just" about living forever or making LOTS of money.
It becomes about saving the human race from the AGI that some fools on this
forum seek to build.

Steve
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