Steve, what do you mean with downloading? an augmentation of our brain capabilities with internal or external devices? What is PR?
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Steve Richfield <steve.richfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Logan, > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Logan Streondj <streo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Cosmism seems to be the religion espoused by top tier AGI researchers. >> Namely Ben Goertzel and Hugo De Garis, though some others have also >> written books about Cosmism recently. >> > > Create-your-own God. Myself, I prefer our present godless world. Heaven > would be SUCH a drag. > >> >> I've always felt my life path was to be a spiritual leader, >> > > Spiritual has to do with what can NOT be presently proven false. Now that > there are solid proofs that present religions like Judaism, Christianity, > and Islam are false, some people look to AGI. Of course once constructed, > AGI will no longer be a religion - it will be technology. > > >> and I'm rather interested in the PR of AGI. >> > > What are the bounds on what you call AGI? Does this include uploading? > Downloading? Enhancement of individuals (like you and me) to full AGI > capability? Etc? > > Unless you have thought out these questions VERY carefully - MUCH more > carefully than the people you now cite, PR will bring disaster to AGI as > others with different opinions react in unfortunate ways. > > >> Having a strong group of people that share the vision of beneficial AGI >> future, is conducive to good legislation and funding. >> > > No, the most likely result would be legislation AGAINST a potential > world-ending technology. Just like bathroom atomic experimentation is now > illegal, AGI research would become illegal. > > However, if you were to "succeed" in attracting "good" legislation and > funding, you would then be up against the situation that SO many have > written about - that there are countless ways that an AGI could destroy us > all, and NO viable approach to protect us from that - leading to our > eventual doom no matter WHAT we did to delay/avoid that end. > >> >> Turing Church and some Transhumanist associations seem to be what is >> available. >> > > What is REALLY needed is a leader pulling people to a more tractable path. > There is WAY too much that is presently unknown about how we work to ever > program a computer to emulate it, or even understand it, even with > limitless intelligence. > > The one shining light I see is to concentrate on technologies leading to > downloading - which is why I have put so much effort into a > super-microscope capable of diagramming brains. My hope is that downloading > outruns the current misdirected wave of people trying to program computers > to think, so PEOPLE remain in charge, rather than a new specie of computer > that has NO interest beyond simple curiosity in our preservation. > > In short, given the presence of hazards like Ben and Hugo, downloading > becomes MUCH more than "just" about living forever or making LOTS of money. > It becomes about saving the human race from the AGI that some fools on this > forum seek to build. > > Steve > ============= > >> tfgrq >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six > hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full > employment. > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/27738727-35a82580> | > Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
