I am curious to see why people think that an AGI requires a high resolution 3D graphical interface in which to operate / learn (at least in the early stages)
Not only is it a massive hit on computing/developer resources, but it seems to be more of a distraction to AI projects. Couldn't an early stage AI work in a small 2D grid - the volume of data is a lot more manageable. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 PM, J Rao <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, I'm not familiar with 3D games, by Skyrim you mean theElder Scrolls > game? > > I can certainly see the value of a world simulator in terms of AGI, but I > have always assumed the gaming companies will take care of that... > > > On 10/23/2015 11:56 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> J Rao wrote: >> >>> Well I assume this is a joke, but if not (joke detection is pretty >>> hard even for a human), here's DeepMind's source code for the Atari >>> game player: >>> https://sites.google.com/a/deepmind.com/dqn/ >>> >>> Feel free to fill in the rest 15%... >>> >> =\ >> >> =( >> >> !!! >> >> =~( >> >> Thanks much for the link, >> >> I've been stuck for the last ten years because I haven't been able to >> obtain a robotics lab or a VR sophisticated enough to do useful work... >> Minecraft is probably the simplest example of a system complex enough to >> support a general AI. >> >> I've been whining about this problem for ten years and haven't been able >> to make any headway on my finances (my check card was declined when I >> tried to buy $30 of groceries this morning) and I haven't been able to >> make any headway on the >> >> My current state of mind is to try to bootstrap me a company to develop >> the necessary stuff... >> >> Skyrim is awesome in terms of graphics and scale, but isn't really a >> world simulator as most things are either immutable or static in some >> sense. The avatar system is severely limited and it has a number of >> flaws that limit it's usefulness... If you try to use a lumber mill, you >> will notice four logs on the top of the pile when you start the mill... >> It will animate the process of milling planks gorgeously but then you >> notice that there are still four logs on the top of the pile... the log >> that you had sent through the mill had been replaced by the game's >> engine so the state of the world didn't really change. >> >> So yeah, Skyrim that was as malleable as Minecraft would be teh awesomez >> for AGI development. >> >> >> Skyrim cost $80M to develop, and was produced by a well-established >> company with plenty of experience in the genre. >> >> >> I registered the site numentics.com but am trying to figure out how to >> program it... I want the site in 3D using the X3dom javascript-based VR >> engine or similar... To make sure It gets done, I might be able to get a >> business loan and get it done... Will probably cost about half a million >> and then another half-million to keep the lights on while I scramble >> around for more capitol, or to bootstrap an income stream off of the 3D >> website... The goal is to either directly be my AGI project or to have >> enough overlap with what I need to be my AGI project... >> >> =\ >> >> My point is that the reason why I haven't done this already isn't >> because I didn't want to, or didn't know how, but that I haven't been >> able to attract/obtain the resources/collaborators I needed to make this >> shit work. This time around I think I have an idea that I might just be >> able to make work and I"m sufficiently desperate to put myself at >> massive financial risk.... >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/25449614-a78bbfa7 > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
