On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:46:39AM -0500, Brad Wyble wrote:

> No never.  Evolution in silico will never move faster than real matter 
> interacting.

Where are you taking this strong certainty? I can easily make a superrealtime
Newtonian physics simulator by spatial tesselation over a large number of 
off-shelf
components (DSPs would do). Biological chronon is some 10 Hz, that's not so 
fast. 

Depending on scenary complexity, a FPS is already faster than realtime. It's
mostly faked physics, but then, it runs on a desktop machine.

With dedicated circuitry a speedup of a million is quite achievable. Maybe
even up to a billion.

Oh, and I'd use "in machina". "In silico" will soon sound as quaint as "in
relais" or "in vacuum tubus".
 
> But yes it's true, there are stupidly insane emounts of CPU power that 
> would give us AI instantly (although it would be so alien to us that we'd 

It doesn't need to be alien to us, if the simworld is realistic.

> have no idea how to communicate with it). However nothing that we'll get 
> in the next 100 century will be so vast.  You'd need a computer many 

You will see individual installations with mole amount of switches within
next 40-50 years. Maybe sooner.

> times the size of the earth to generate AI through evolution in a 
> reasonable time frame.

Show me the numbers behind this assumption. 

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