On May 7, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 09:29:51AM -0400, Ben Goertzel wrote:
If you explain to me what non-logic based reprsentation you prefer to
use to represent a particular piece of knowledge, I can almost surely

What if you don't yet know which piece of knowledge you have to
represent? And that there are no clear specs, and the requirements
change constantly?


There are levels of abstraction here; the nice thing about silicon is that it lets you do almost anything, granted with wildly varying efficiency depending on the problem. On the surface, first-order logic and NAND gates are obscenely inefficient at dealing with the situation you describe but there is no particular reason one could not implement a more efficient abstraction on top of them. Evaluation under uncertainty is a reasonably well understood theoretical domain even if engineering practice does not exploit it well.


Do you know any AI rewriting the code base (whether at SEXPR or FPGA
gate level)?


There is another way using somewhat different assumptions. A proper non-axiomatic computational system is constantly updating the model that determines the results of expression evaluation. Adaptive (and particularly deeply Bayesian) expression evaluation in something that resembles a functional language is essentially no different than rewriting the code base even if the tiny core that is the virtual machine a person wrote does not get rewritten. Noisy signal, incomplete data, and errors are handled robustly; that is most of the point of using non-axiomatic models in the first place. I would guess that Pei Wang could add something to this.

Classic lambda calculus functional languages (LISP/Scheme being canonical) are not well suited for non-axiomatic adaptation (IMO&E), but there are other more obscure functional models (e.g. the functional FORTH-like research/academic languages) can be made to fit much more neatly though there are none that I would point to as being ideal. It is an obscure corner of computer science even without trying to integrate non-axiomatic concepts into it, so it is not the sexiest of discussions. I've been meaning to drop this into a thread for a year or so, but never got around to it; I've been using a non- axiomatic machine model for a while. A lot of this is arguably dull slog material -- tedious, unsexy, and useful.

None of which prevents memory-attached FPGAs from being very useful for the broader task. I look forward to evaluating such systems.


Cheers,

J. Andrew Rogers


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