On 5/6/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pei,

I don't think there's any confusion here. Your system as you describe it IS
deterministic. Whether an observer might be confused by it is irrelevant.
Equally the fact that it is determined by a complex set of algorithms
applying to various tasks and domains and not by one task-specific
algorithm, is also irrelevant. It's still deterministic.

OK, let's use the word in this way. Then how do you know that the
human mind is not deterministic in this sense? Just because you don't
know a complex set of algorithms that can explain its behaviors?

The point, presumably, is that your system has a clear set of priorities in
deciding between different goals, tasks, axioms and algorithms

Wrong. NARS often needs to work hard to decide "between different
goals, tasks, axioms and algorithms", and is not always successful in
doing that.

You confused "the algorithms in a system that make it work" with
"algorithms defined with respect to problem classes".

Humans don't. Humans are still trying to work out what they really want, and
what their priorities are between, for example, the different activities of
their life, between work, sex, friendship, love, family etc. etc. Humans are
designed to be in conflict about their fundamental goals throughout their
lives. And that, I would contend, is GOOD design, and essential for their
success and survival.

Agree, but the same description is true for NARS, in principle.

If there's any confusion, think about many women and dieting. They will be
confronted by much the same decisions about whether to eat or not to eat on
possibly thousands of occasions throughout their lives. And over and over,
throughout their entire lives,  they will - freely - decide now this way,
now that. Yo-yoing on and off their diets. Your system, as I understand it,
would never do that - would never act in such crazy, mixed up, contradictory
ways.

Your understanding about NARS is completely wrong. Can you tell me
which publications of mine give you this impression? Or you simple
assume that all "deterministic" systems must behave in this way?

Pei

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