Edward W. Porter wrote:
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There is a very interest paper at http://www.icsuci.edu/~granger/RHGenginesJ1s.pdf <http://www.ics.uci.edu/~granger/RHGenginesJ1s.pdf> that I have referred to before on this list that states the cortico-thalmic feedback loop functions to serialize the brain's activated feature set, to as to broadcast the currently activated features to other areas of the brain in what is in effect a serail grammer, and that associations are learned across the multiple time delays between the concepts sequentially broadcast in such statements, which I presume would operate at a gama wave freqency of about 30 to 40 concept broadcasts a second. So it might be possible learning could operate with the time delays necessary for correllated actovations of nodes A and B to be be detected through multi-hop connections. It is clear that short term (and even long term) memory lets us detect correllations that are not within a 50th of a second of each other.

Edward

If I were you, I would not get too excited about this paper, nor others of this sort (see, e.g. Granger's other general brain-engineering paper at http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rhg/pubs/RHGai50.pdf).

This kind of research comes pretty close to something that deserves to be called "bogus neuroscience" -- very dense publication, full of neuroanatomic detail, with occasional assertions that a particular circuit or brain structure corresponds to a cognitive function. Only problem: the statements about neuroanatomy are at the [Experienced Researcher] level, while the statements about cognitive functions are at the [First Year Psychology Student Who Took One Class In Cog Psy And Thinks They Know Everything] level.

The statements about cognitive functions are embarrassing in their naivete.

Apart from anything else, no recognition whatsoever is given of issues that crop up when you assume a system works by simply building simple feature recognizers. How does it cope with the instance/generic distinction? How does it allow top-down processes to operate in the recognition process? How are relationships between instances encoded? How are relationships abstracted? How does position-independent recognition occur? What about the main issue that usually devastates any behaviorist-type proposal: patterns to be associated with other patterns are first extracted from the input by some (invisible, unacknowledged) preprocessor, but when the nature of this preprocessor is examined carefully, it turns out that its job is far, far more intelligent than the supposed association engine to which it delivers its goods?

To be sure, this guy Granger may have answers (good, convincing answers backed up by experiments and simulations) to all of these questions and problems. In that case, he would be streets ahead of everyone else and is destined to save the world.

But if you look at his papers, he shows no sign that he is even aware that these issues exist. For every 1,000 words of neuroscience, there are two sentences of cognitive function assertions. And they are just that: assertions. If this kind of stuff was submitted as a student essay in a Cognitive Psychology course, it would come back with "WHY???" written next to each of the cognitive function statements.

If he had actually built a complete simulation of his theory, and if that simulation actually took raw input, discovered hierarchies of concepts, handled multiple instances without missing a beat, finessed all the other issues, and did all of this without inserting a preprocessor that cheated by getting the programmer to do do all the important work, I'd be the first to eat my words.

But he hasn't. And neither has Stephen Grossberg. And neither has John Taylor. And neither has Christof Koch.

If you want to read a thorough analysis of several other examples of this kind of spurious neuroscience, let me know and I will happily send a pre-release copy of a paper I recently finished:

Loosemore, R.P.W. & Harley, T.A. "Brains and Minds: On the Usefulness of Localisation Data to Cognitive Psychology". To appear in M.Bunzl & S.J.Hanson (Eds.), Philosophical Foundations of fMRI. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.



Richard Loosemore





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