Jiri Jelinek wrote on Thu 11/01/07 2:51 AM JIRI>> Ok, here is how I see it: If we survive, I believe we will eventually get plugged into some sort of pleasure machine and we will not care about intelligence at all. Intelligence is a useless tool when there are no problems and no goals to think about. We don't really want any goals/problems in our minds.
ED>> So is the envisioned world is one in which people are on something equivalent to a perpetual heroin or crystal meth rush? If so, since most current humans wouldnt have much use for such people, I dont know why self-respecting productive human-level AGIs would either. And, if humans had no goals or never thought about intelligence or problems, there is no hope they would ever be able to defend themselves from the machines. I think it is important to keep people in the loop and substantially in control for as long as possible, at least until we make a transhumanist transition. I think it is important that most people have some sort of work, even if it is only in helping raise children, taking care of the old, governing society, and managing machines. Freud said work of some sort was important, and a lot of people think he was right. Even as humans increasingly become more machine through intelligence augmentation, we well have problems. Even if the machines totally take over they will have problems. Shit happens -- even to machines. So I think having more pleasure is good, but trying to have so much pleasure that you have no goals, no concern for intelligence, and never think of problems is a recipe for certain extinction. You know, survival of the fittest and all that other boring rot that just happens to dominate reality. Nirvana? Manyana? Never! Of course, all this is IMHO. Ed Porter P.S. If you ever make one of your groove machines, you could make billions with it. ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=59947465-e0a37a
