On Nov 2, 2007 2:35 PM, Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could you please provide one specific example of a human goal which
> > isn't feeling-based?
>
> It depends on what you mean by 'based' and 'goal'. Does any choice
> qualify as a goal? For example, if I choose to write certain word in
> this e-mail, does a choice to write it form a goal of writing it?
> I can't track source of this goal, it happens subconsciously.

Choice to take particular action generates sub-goal (which might be
deep in the sub-goal chain). If you go up, asking "why?" on each
level, you eventually reach the feeling level where goals (not just
sub-goals) are coming from. In short, I'm writing these words because
I have reasons to believe that the discussion can in some way support
my &/or someone else's AGI R &/or D. I want to support it because I
believe AGI can significantly help us to avoid pain and get more
pleasure - which is basically what drives us [by design]. So when we
are 100% done, there will be no pain and an extreme pleasure. Of
course I'm simplifying a bit, but what are the key objections?

> Saying just 'Friendly AI' seems to be
> sufficient to specify a goal for human researchers, but not enough to
> actually build one.

Just build AGI that follows given rules.

Regards,
Jiri Jelinek

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