On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can destroy all Earth-originated life if I start early enough. If
>  > there is something else out there, it can similarly be hostile and try
>  > destroy me if it can, without listening to any friendliness prayer.
>
>  All definitely true.  The only advantage to my approach is that you *have* a
>  friendliness prayer that *might* convince them to leave you alone.  Do you
>  have any better alternative to stop a vastly superior power?  I'll bet not.
>

What if they are secular deities and send believers to Hell?

>
>  > I can upload what I can and/or initiate new intelligent entities
>  > inside controlled virtual environments.
>
>  You can but doing so requires effort and you're tremendously unlikely to get
>  the richness and variety that you would get if you just allowed evolution to
>  do the work throughout the universe.  Why are you voluntarily impoverishing
>  yourself?  That's *not* in your self-interest.

Virtual environment is almost as powerful as physical. Simply
converting enough matter to appropriate variety of computronium
shouldn't require too much effort.

>
>  > See my above arguments about why comparative advantage doesn't work in
>  > this case. I can produce ideal slaves that are no less able than
>  > potential allies, but don't have agenda of their own.
>
>  Producing slaves takes resources/effort.

I feel that you underestimate the power of generally intelligent tools.

-- 
Vladimir Nesov
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