--- Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what provides the artificial evolutionary drive in your system? I can > > accept that cooperation between agents and killing defectors (your > > definition > > of Friendly) leads to greater fitness, but where does the group goal of > > self > > preservation come from if there are no wars between groups? > > From all of my other goals. If I die, none of them get done. This is why > self-preservation is an Omohundro drive.
Which is not quite correct. Humans and other animals don't have Omohundro drives as explicit goals. They have goals that contribute to these drives. You don't have a goal of self preservation. You have goals like eating, breathing, avoiding pain, etc. that increase the odds of passing on your genes. This seems like a minor point but it is not. You cannot automatically assume that an agent in a cooperative environment wants to live. Indeed, if there is competition among groups, the most successful groups will have agents with goals that promote the survival of the group, not themselves. So I ask again. If there is just *one* group of cooperating agents, then where does the drive for group self preservation come from? I suppose that a group would have inherited goals that contribute to survival from an earlier time when groups competed. But if there is no competition, then those goals don't evolve. It is like humans given unlimited food, machines to do all our work, and drugs to make us happy. We evolved in a time when those things didn't exist, so we become fat, lazy addicts. How do you prevent your group of friendly agents from wireheading itself? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
