Josh,

Gigerenzer doesn't sound like old stuff or irrelevant to me , with my limited knowledge, (and also seems like a pretty good example of how v. much more practical it can be to think imaginatively than mathematically, no?)::

"how do real people make good decisions under the usual conditions of little time and scarce information? Consider how players catch a ball-in baseball, cricket, or soccer. It may seem that they would have to solve complex differential equations in their heads to predict the trajectory of the ball. In fact, players use a simple heuristic. When a ball comes in high, the player fixates the ball and starts running. The heuristic is to adjust the running speed so that the angle of gaze remains constant -that is, the angle between the eye and the ball. The player can ignore all the information necessary to compute the trajectory, such as the ball's initial velocity, distance, and angle, and just focus on one piece of information, the angle of gaze."

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/gigerenzer03/gigerenzer_index.html

Josh:This is all pretty old stuff for mainstream AI -- see Herb Simon and bounded
rationality.  What needs work is the cross-modal interaction, and
understanding the details of how the heuristics arise in the first place from the pressures of real-time processing constraints and deliberative modelling.

Josh


On Tuesday 29 April 2008 11:12:28 am, Mike Tintner wrote:
Josh:You can't do it without using
> both visualization and algebra...> Now go out onto the tennis court and
> return a high kick serve wide to your
> forehand in the deuce court.

Josh/Bob:

What do Gigerenzer's fast and frugal heuristics have to say about this? ...

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