No, this is not a variant of the "analog is fundamentally different from digital category".

Each of the things that I mentioned could be implemented digitally -- however, they are entirely new classes of things to consider and require a lot more data and processing.

I find it very interesting that you can't even answer a straight yes-or-no question without resorting to obscuring BS and inventing strawmen.

Are you actually claiming that neurotransmitter levels are irrelevant or are you implementing them?

Are you claiming that leakage along the axons and dendrites is irrelevant or are you modeling it?

Two simple questions. Two choices for each. Try answering them without the obscuring BS.

----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Andrew Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Mark Waser wrote:
So . . . . given that the biological neurons have all this additional complexity that I have listed before, are you going to attempt to implement it or are you going to declare it as unnecessary (with the potential that, if you are wrong, you may doom your AGI effort before you ever get started)?


You presume that all this "additional complexity" is actually complex in a meaningful way. Since it is relatively trivial to derive analogous behaviors and structure with understood function in other non-biological models (even if they look biological), I am not sure what to tell you. You are positing unimaginable complexity with a Disneyland of functionality, but you need nothing like that to get the same structure, behavior, and utility out of the system (*cough* Occam *cough*).

This appears to be a variant of the "analog is fundamentally different from digital" category error.


J. Andrew Rogers



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