Good luck with your blank slate AI.
Maybe you should read some Steven Pinker about blank slate humans.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Nesov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] Ideological Interactions Need to be Studied
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To believe that you need
something more complex, you need evidence.
Yes, and the evidence that you need something more complex is
overwhelming
in this case (if you have anywhere near adequate knowledge of the field).
You need evidence about principles of AI, not just about particulars
of human brain. To clarify what you mean, please suggest a specific
piece of evidence (a paper, well-known fact, etc.).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't know what you mean. This particular conversation is not placed
in the specific enough context to talk about doing something or
obtaining experimental results.
This particular conversation was discussing neurons. The neural network
model of neurons is *entirely* local. There are *many* globally-mediated
effects that dramatically affect cognition. These are simply not
handled.
There are *many* time-related effects that affect neuron-firing. These
are
not handled. There is *a lot* of experimental evidence that both of
these
things are necessary for coherent cognition -- yet, you and J.R. wish to
sweep it all away in the interest of mindless simplicity.
Handled? Handled by what? You are finding some meaning that I didn't
intend to convey.
But it seems that I do believe so. Human brain is a rather complex
thing, if only to encode evolutionary psychology and special-purpose
modalities. Still, it doesn't mean that you'll need these in blank
slate AI.
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Vladimir Nesov
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