I had said:
The problem is that you are still missing what should be the main
focus of your efforts. It's not whether or not your program does good
statistical models, or uses probability nets, or hybrid technology of
some sort, or that you have solved some mystery to analogy that was
not yet understood.
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Ben answered:
I am getting really, really tired of a certain conversational pattern that
often occurs on this list!!
It goes like this...
Person A asks some question....
[Ben goes on]...
Then, Person B says "You are focusing on the wrong thing,
which shows you don't understand the AGI problem."
....
Urrggghh...
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I did not say that you do not understand the AGI problem. I meant
that while you may gain a little traction with your project, I believe
you will be spinning your wheels until you deal directly and
effectively with the problem of how the program can learn about
ideological structure from within a highly ambiguous context.
To be candid I don't think that the emotionality of your response was
caused by "a certain conversational pattern," and it was not at all
reasonable for you to assume that I was saying that you "don't
understand the AGI problem," as you put it. I was saying that most
people don't have any idea what I mean when I talk about things like
interrelated ideological structures in an ambiguous environment, and
that this issue was central to the contemporary problem, but that
still does not generalize to an opinion that anyone who does not
understand what I am talking about does not understand anything about
Artificial Intelligence or AGI.
It is interesting that while you made an exaggerated accusation that I
dissed you, your greatest exaggeration was actually directed at
yourself; ie that you don't understand the AGI problem. At any rate,
that remark came from your mind, not mine.
If you ever change your mind, and wish to discuss this with me
sometime, let me know.
Jim Bromer
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