> You may not like "Therefore, we cannot understand the math needed to define
> our own intelligence.", but I'm rather convinced that it's correct. 

Do you mean to say that there are parts that we can't understand or that the 
totality is too large to fit and that it can't be cleanly and completely 
decomposed into pieces (i.e. it's a complex system ;-).

Personally, I believe that the foundational pieces necessary to 
construct/boot-strap an intelligence are eminently understandable (if not even 
fairly simple) but that the resulting intelligence that a) organically grows 
from it's interaction with an environment that it can only extract partial, 
dirty, and ambiguous data and b) does not have the time, computational 
capability, or data to make itself even remotely consistent past a certain 
level IS large and complex enough that you will never truly understand it 
(which is where I have sympathy with Richard Loosemore's arguments -- but don't 
buy that the interaction of the pieces is necessarily so complex that we can't 
make broad predictions that are accurate enough to be able to "engineer" 
intelligence).

If you say "parts we can't understand", how do you reconcile that with your 
statements of yesterday about what general intelligences can learn?


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