Dear Matt,
Try running yourself with empirical results instead of metabelief
(belief about belief). You'll get someplace .i.e. you'll resolve the
inconsistencies. When inconsistencies are *testably *absent, no matter
how weird the answer, it will deliver maximally informed choices. Not
facts. Facts will only ever appear differently after choices are made.
This too is a fact...which I have chosen to make choices about. :-) If
you fail to resolve your inconsistency then you are guaranteeing that
your choices are minimally informed. Tricky business, science: an
intrinsically dynamic process in which choice is the driver (epistemic
state transition) and the facts (the epistemic state) are forever
transitory , never certain. You can only make so-called facts certain by
failing to choose. Then they lodge in your brain (and nowhere else) like
dogma-crud between your teeth, and the rot sets in. The plus side - you
get to be 100% right. Personally I'd rather get real AGI built and be
testably wrong a million times along the way.
cheers,
colin hales
Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Harry Chesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matt Mahoney wrote:
If you don't define consciousness in terms of an objective test, then
you can say anything you want about it.
We don't entirely disagree about that. An objective test is absolutely
crucial. I believe where we disagree is that I expect there to be such a
test one day, while you claim there can never be.
It depends on the definition. The problem with the current definition (what
most people think it means) is that it leads to logical inconsistencies. I
believe I have a consciousness, a little person inside my head that experiences
things and makes decisions. I also believe that my belief is false, that my
brain would do exactly the same thing without this little person. I know these
two views are inconsistent. I just accept that they are and leave it at that.
-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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