Matt Mahoney wrote: > If you don't define consciousness in terms of an objective test, then > you can say anything you want about it.
We don't entirely disagree about that. An objective test is absolutely crucial. I believe where we disagree is that I expect there to be such a test one day, while you claim there can never be. (I say "don't /entirely/ agree" because I think we can talk about things that are not completely defined -- in this case, I believe most people reading this do know the subjective feeling of consciousness and recognize that that's what I mean. A scientific exploration requires a more thorough definition, but we can still have some meaningful discourse without it, though we do risk running off into wildly unsubstantiated theories when we do.) ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com