And btw, the notion that control is a key concept in the brain goes back at least to Norbert Wiener's book Cybernetics from the 1930's !! ... Principia Cybernetica has a simple but clear webpage on the control concept in cybernetics...
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/CONTROL.html ben g On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yay ... we all agree on something ;-p > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> BillK wrote: >>>> >>>> Nobody has mentioned this yet..... >>>> >>>> <http://www.physorg.com/news146319784.html> >>> >>> I got a draft version of the paper earlier this year, and after a quick scan >>> I filed it under 'junk'. >>> >>> I just read it through again, and the filing stays the same. >>> >> >> I have to agree. The paper attacks a strawman by blanket assertions. >> Even worse, the attack itself is flawed: in section 2 he tries to >> define the concept of "control", and, having trouble with free >> will-like issues, produces a combination of brittle and nontechnical >> assertions. As a result, in his own example (at the very end of >> section 2), a doctor is considered "in control" of treating a patient >> only if he can prescribe *arbitrary* treatment that doesn't depend on >> the patient (or his illness). >> >> -- >> Vladimir Nesov >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > Director of Research, SIAI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, > give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new > problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight > efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -- Robert > Heinlein > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
