On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And btw, the notion that control is a key concept in the brain goes > back at least to Norbert Wiener's book Cybernetics from the 1930's !! > ... Principia Cybernetica has a simple but clear webpage on the > control concept in cybernetics... > > http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/CONTROL.html >
I don't like that definition for basically the same reason, but it maybe explains where Asim Roy comes from. At least they are not literally insisting on control being a property of the system itself, according to this remark: "Of course, two systems can be in a state of mutual control, but this will be a different, more complex, relation, which we will still describe as a combination of two asymmetric control relations." Controller-controlled relation is a model assigned to the system, not an intrinsic property of the system itself. Also, there is no "may" or "could" apart from semantics of search algorithm, which is a thing to keep in mind when making claims like the following, about "freedom" of controller, and especially when trying to use this notion of "freedom" to establish asymmetry: "The controller C may change the state of the controlled system S in any way, including the destruction of S." -- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
