--- On Mon, 12/29/08, Richard Loosemore <r...@lightlink.com> wrote: > 8-) Don't say that too loudly, Yudkowsky might hear > you. :-) ... > When I suggested that someone go check some of his ravings > with an outside authority, he banned me from his discussion > list.
Yudkowsky's side of the story might be of interest... http://www.sl4.org/archive/0608/15895.html http://www.sl4.org/archive/0608/15928.html -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com > From: Richard Loosemore <r...@lightlink.com> > Subject: Re: [agi] [Science Daily] Our Unconscious Brain Makes The Best > Decisions Possible > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 4:02 PM > Lukasz Stafiniak wrote: > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081224215542.htm > > > > Nothing surprising ;-) > > Nothing surprising?!! > > 8-) Don't say that too loudly, Yudkowsky might hear > you. :-) > > The article is a bit naughty when it says, of Tversky and > Kahnemann, that "...this has become conventional wisdom > among cognition researchers." Actually, the original > facts were interpreted in a variety of ways, some of which > strongly disagreed with T & K's original > intepretation, just like this one you reference above. The > only thing that is conventional wisdom is that the topic > exists, and is the subject of dispute. > > And, as many people know, I made the mistake of challenging > Yudkowsky on precisely this subject back in 2006, when he > wrote an essay strongly advocating T&K's original > intepretation. Yudkowsky went completely berserk, accused > me of being an idiot, having no brain, not reading any of > the literature, never answering questions, and generally > being something unspeakably worse than a slime-oozing crank. > He literally wrote an essay denouncing me as equivalent to > a flat-earth believing crackpot. > > When I suggested that someone go check some of his ravings > with an outside authority, he banned me from his discussion > list. > > Ah, such are the joys of being speaking truth to power(ful > idiots). > > ;-) > > As far as this research goes, it sits somewhere down at the > lower end of the available theories. My friend Mike > Oaksford in the UK has written several papers giving a > higher level cognitive theory that says that people are, in > fact, doing something like bayesian estimation when then > make judgments. In fact, people are very good at being > bayesians, contra the loud protests of the I Am A Bayesian > Rationalist crowd, who think they were the first to do it. > > > > > > Richard Loosemore ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
