On 10 June 2010 23:05, Ian Kelly <ian.g.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > <jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> At any time during the journey >> may he create a Threat by specifying the following: > > "At any time" may be a bit generous. The Enemy could watch what the > players do and then submit threats at 23:55 specially designed to > avoid what the players have done that day. I would suggest that the > Enemy be allowed to announce new threats at any time, which are not > actually created until the last step of the daily update.
That's a good one. "Newly created threats appear enter space and appear on the map" should be a point on the check-list, right after everything shoots. > >> This is done by paying a number of Threat Points equal to the >> following formula: H+|d|+e+a+s+10-|S-p|, where S is the current >> position of the Shuttle. It must be positioned between the two >> wormholes and cannot have the same starting position as the Shuttle. > > Minimum zero? > Yes, good catch. Though it would have to be way far out, pretty harmless, and slow-moving in order to go below zero. I'm thinking limiting to creating one or two threats per day, then doing one just to generate points doesn't help as much. >> iv) If any two objects have the same position, they collide. If any >> object collides with a wormhole, it disappears. Threats that disappear >> this way generate Threat Points equal to their current cost, which are >> awarded to the Enemy. > > This seems like it could be abused by creating cheap, far-distant > threats that exist for the sole purpose of running away and being > dumped into a wormhole to generate threat points. Definitely. Is it enough if I add something that a threat has to pass the Shuttle before disappearing into a wormhole in order to give its threat points back? I think it is. >> Does this make sense? Is it too much to keep track of? Do we want this >> kind of gameplay, even if it is/gets streamlined enough? >> Yes, it's a rip-off from Space Alert, but enough people have not >> played that game to make that fact a point in its favour: Space Alert >> gameplay deserves to be experienced. > > The turbo seems too powerful. As written, 8 players could complete a > 10-distance journey in less than a day by recharging three times and > then jamming the turbo. The threats wouldn't even get a chance to > attack. Perhaps limit each button to being pressed once per day, > scaling for number of active players? There is already a clause saying each button can only be pushed once. The only problem now is that nothing at all scales according to the number of players. Probably the best thing to scale would be the threat points: maybe difficulty/4*number of players or something. > Regarding whether there is too much to keep track of, one of the best > aspects of the board game is that there is supposed to be to much to > keep track of. You can never be sure exactly what the effect of your > action will be because you don't really know what the current state of > the ship is -- it might even have been destroyed already and you just > don't know it yet. Perhaps a way to help achieve this would be to > implement partial secrecy of actions -- actions must be sent privately > to the Ship Computor and not publicly announced, and during periods of > Enemy-imposed radio silence they may not even be discussed. > > Anyway, I could be talked into registering in order to play. It even > makes me want to revive my Battlestar Galactica proto... > > -root > I was thinking of how to make this even more like actual Space Alert, and sending actions to the Computor really is a good thing. Drawback is of course that it increases the workload for the Computor, as well as making em unable to play on either side. Another good thing, apart from the chaos that is partially secret actions, is that one can make the Captain's Log thing even more interesting: what if the computor didn't announce who activated it? Then any player who happened to stand there could be subject to mutiny. If we have this partial secrecy, should moving about be an action? I think t could be pretty interesting if one were to see where everyone was all the time, but not what buttons they were pushing. And should all resolution be weekly, like a seven-card SA phase, or should the computor announce stuff every day? -- -Tiger
