On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > None of these are ideal. I think #2 is cleaner as (when one of these is > discovered) it probably involves recalculating for everyone, anyway. I > generally dislike going doing the "who knew about what when" path. But I > admit this is all personal preference and after browsing I can't find any > relevant court cases. I note that for your actual votes in this situation, > it doesn't apply because it wasn't undiscovered and it's reasonable to say > that everyone voting "should have" known about it.
Well... I don't think #2 is a valid option; or rather, if we use #2 (which we always have), it's not fair to call it purely an administrative convenience; we have to accept that the transformation of "all proposals" into "P7000, P7001, P7002" is happening at a deeper level than language or dialect transformations. Assuming a legalistic point of view (not reasonable observer), for me to acknowledge something's existence is to state that it exists; thus, a person who did not previously know that it existed, if I did acknowledge it, would find out after reading my message. In fact, that is the case, assuming that e looked up relevant distributions of proposals to find out what I was voting on. However, the set of proposals e would find (and so the set of proposals I acknowledged) might differ from the set of proposals that the message is effective in voting for, if "common opinion" were wrong about some relevant fact. Does this make sense? > "I transfer all my assets to the bank and then deregister". There's > some precedents here, but unfortunately, those precedents were for when > assets were more strictly controlled and the rules came out and said you > had to be very specific. That's not in the Rules anymore. Actually, the relevant text at the time of CFJ 1307 said you had to "specify" the assets to transfer. Rule 478 currently requires that you "unambiguously and clearly specify" the action, which (CFJ 2238) applies to the parameters of an action. Current game custom directly contradicts those precedents.
