oof, also my apologies for the walls of text. i'm playing with gmail's
plain text editor and the input box doesn't automatically line break
for me. those paragraphs are...denser than expected.


-grok


On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:51 AM, grok (caleb vines)
<grokag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> You can not flip a switch to a value that the switch already held or at 
>> least that would make sense.
>> ----
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
> I don't see any text in the ruleset that would make me believe a
> switch cannot be flipped to the value it is currently set to.
> Especially since "Flip" is a term of art defined textually, not
> contextually. In casual and contextual cases, "flip" usually indicates
> multiple exclusive states that can only be modified by changing from
> one state to another [1]. However, the ruleset definition of "flip"
> indicates to me that switches can be "flipped" to any legal value,
> including their current value. The exact language,
>
>>>"To flip an instance of a switch" is to make it come to have a given value.
>
> makes me believe that a switch can be flipped to any of the switch's
> legal values. As long as it comes to have the given value, it's a
> legal change. In this case, the player flipping the switch is just
> making it come to have the given value of "player," and it is
> coincidental that its current value is also "player." If the textual
> definition of "flip a switch" made the switch come to have a DIFFERENT
> value, I would agree. But right now, all I see is that "flipping a
> switch" just means "setting the value," rather than "changing the
> value." Adding "different" may be a good decision in the future.
>
> There are immediate possible impacts on registration date in this
> specific scenario. Not a big thing in the current ruleset but it could
> affect one's ability to give and receive white ribbons. Could also
> make a player subject to any "new player restrictions" like the ones
> that used to exist and have been discussed now.
>
> Curiously, the ruleset used to have language specifically stating that
> only non-players could register (R869/9 and R869/17), but that
> language has been lost over time.[2]
>
>
> [1]: I concede that, in some contexts, "flip" means "to rotate an
> object along its horizontal axis."
> [2]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?1648
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I recommend that the Referee accept this apology and issue a green card if 
>> any card.
>> ----
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
> If I were a player, I would recommend avoiding punishment absent a CFJ
> indicating that omd actually committed an infraction. But I'm not, so
> idk. Maybe someone else would make that recommendation on my behalf.
>
>
> -grok

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