I’d be in favour of reducing it from a month to a week or two. I’m especially 
sympathetic to your case, as your original action that lead to your bankruptcy 
could easily have been entirely ineffective, and therefore harmless.

-o

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Quazie <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> While you're at it - bankruptcy sucks - being unable to work at all with 
> organizations for long periods of time is a pretty intense punishment.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 14:58 Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:nich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> If I can, I withdraw the proposal "Less Strict Faking". Thank you and
> sorry to anyone who lost shinies pending it. (Especially since I
> realized I had 5 shinies after I asked people to pend it.)
> 
> I'm currently rethinking not only this but the entire criminal justice
> proposal. I do believe we need robust systems to deal with disruption,
> that explicit reprimand is a useful tool, and that ameliorative
> intervention (like tort law) is productive. But I question the
> effectiveness of the current Card system, and I worry about the
> direction of my own proposal; a complex criminal system surely wouldn't
> look welcoming to newcomers, and might cause as much grief as it intends
> to solve. Maybe I've taken a dark turn there.
> 
> I think that Justice, in general, can use three tools: Punishment,
> Rehabilitation, and Remedy. I think the first is the easiest to jump to
> but also the least useful. Exclusionary punishment (limiting voting
> power, CFJs, and even banishment) can prevent specific attacks but does
> little to decrease the malice of an aggravated person and frequently
> alienates the simply belligerent.
> 
> Rehabilitation already exists in the current system, and I think all of
> us have been pleasantly surprised at its success: Apologies. Maybe a
> future criminal system should focus more closely on this. Maybe ALL
> punishments should be reducable with Rehabilitory steps.
> 
> Remedy is essentially all of tort law, and doesn't currently exist. If
> we continue with pledges, orgs, and assets we definitely need it. But
> like Punishment, it does little to enlighten or improve the mood of the
> offender, and should be used when it helps to provide an overall sense
> of fairness to the community.
> 
> 
> On 07/13/17 15:37, Nic Evans wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal:
> >
> > Title: Less Strict Faking
> > AI: 1
> > Author: nichdel
> > Co-authors:
> >
> > Amend R2471 (No Faking) to read:
> >
> > A person SHALL NOT attempt to perform an action which e does not believe
> > to be possible so as to deceive others.
> >
> 
> 

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