It's currently at 90 days (Rule 2457).

-Aris


On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote:
> I’d be in favour of reducing it from a month to a week or two. I’m
> especially sympathetic to your case, as your original action that lead to
> your bankruptcy could easily have been entirely ineffective, and therefore
> harmless.
>
> -o
>
> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Quazie <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> While you're at it - bankruptcy sucks - being unable to work at all with
> organizations for long periods of time is a pretty intense punishment.
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 14:58 Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If I can, I withdraw the proposal "Less Strict Faking". Thank you and
>> sorry to anyone who lost shinies pending it. (Especially since I
>> realized I had 5 shinies after I asked people to pend it.)
>>
>> I'm currently rethinking not only this but the entire criminal justice
>> proposal. I do believe we need robust systems to deal with disruption,
>> that explicit reprimand is a useful tool, and that ameliorative
>> intervention (like tort law) is productive. But I question the
>> effectiveness of the current Card system, and I worry about the
>> direction of my own proposal; a complex criminal system surely wouldn't
>> look welcoming to newcomers, and might cause as much grief as it intends
>> to solve. Maybe I've taken a dark turn there.
>>
>> I think that Justice, in general, can use three tools: Punishment,
>> Rehabilitation, and Remedy. I think the first is the easiest to jump to
>> but also the least useful. Exclusionary punishment (limiting voting
>> power, CFJs, and even banishment) can prevent specific attacks but does
>> little to decrease the malice of an aggravated person and frequently
>> alienates the simply belligerent.
>>
>> Rehabilitation already exists in the current system, and I think all of
>> us have been pleasantly surprised at its success: Apologies. Maybe a
>> future criminal system should focus more closely on this. Maybe ALL
>> punishments should be reducable with Rehabilitory steps.
>>
>> Remedy is essentially all of tort law, and doesn't currently exist. If
>> we continue with pledges, orgs, and assets we definitely need it. But
>> like Punishment, it does little to enlighten or improve the mood of the
>> offender, and should be used when it helps to provide an overall sense
>> of fairness to the community.
>>
>>
>> On 07/13/17 15:37, Nic Evans wrote:
>> > I submit the following proposal:
>> >
>> > Title: Less Strict Faking
>> > AI: 1
>> > Author: nichdel
>> > Co-authors:
>> >
>> > Amend R2471 (No Faking) to read:
>> >
>> > A person SHALL NOT attempt to perform an action which e does not believe
>> > to be possible so as to deceive others.
>> >
>>
>>
>

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