It doesn't take 30 days due to a bug.
To use the bug, deregister, and re-register without using the words "I register" or "I become a player", or other action verbs rather, re-register by passive language indicating "reasonably clearly and reasonably unambiguously that e intends to become a player at that time." I'd think about doing so as a protest; the difficulty towards casual player economic participation has been pointed out and so far in conversations, the designers of the system either aren't seeing the great urgency to fix it, or think it's a feature. Of course, there aren't enough shinies to give you a welcome package now, so it depends on your current holdings. Another failing of the system is no one is actually responsible or held accountable for failing to pay out welcome packages - this system definitely supports the gerontocracy, much worse than other systems I've seen. (Not that I think this was the intent, but at this time it should be clear and as game designers, there should be some urgency in fixing it). On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote: > I would like my stamp or the value of Shinies which I paid for it back > because I do not > effectively have a way to earn Shinies as a casual player. If deregistration > and > re-registering didn't take 30 days I would seriously consider doing so so I > qualify for > another welcome package at this point. Expect me to do so at some point if > the economy > doesn't get fixed, and re-implement everything I own. > > 天火狐 > > On 7 September 2017 at 09:32, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > That was my main reason for assuming it would fail, and why my attempt > specified an order. > > Gaelan > > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Coming back to the "all stamps" statement. > > > > "all" is a convenient shorthand and wholly unofficial. If it is too > > difficult (ambigious) for an officer to calculate, we can assume that > > the actor also didn't sufficiently specify the set to perform multiple > > actions, and is uncertain about what it is shorthand for, and the > whole > > thing is unsuitably ambiguous. > > > > ALSO: we stated that "If a transaction doesn't go through, the whole > > thing fails." Would Agora have run out of shinies partway through > > destroying stamps? If so, some stamps survived. If we don't know > > the order in which stamps were destroyed, it is ambiguous which ones > > were destroyed. This is also enough to toss the whole thing out. > > > > (There is also a precedent, which I can find if there's a CFJ, that we > > require extra scrutiny on scam actions). > > > > > >> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: > >> how much is this by the way? It may be a nightmare to bookkeep every > >> stamp for poor o. > >> > >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> OK, we're all stupid lol, let me fix it then : P > >>> > >>> I destroy all stamps and cause Agora to transfer, for each, the > Stamp Value > >>> to me, in shinies. > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:57 AM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "e tried to have Agora transfer em the FLOATING value, not the > SHINY > >>>> value." > >>>> > >>>> I think you mean STAMP value :) > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> > wrote: > >>>>> I discovered two problems with Cuddle’s attempt. The first, which > I > >>>>> believe is sufficient to make it fail, is that e tried to have > Agora > >>>>> transfer em the FLOATING value, not the SHINY value. This means > that VJ got > >>>>> his rewards. My other reason remains classified. > >>>>> > >>>>> I’d advise that VJ still refrain from spending his shinies until > we are > >>>>> absolutely certain that the typo failed it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gaelan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> From V.J Rada > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> From V.J Rada > >> > > > >
